Comment on MULTIVERSE has defederated fedinsfw.app for hosting child pornography

• adhd_traco@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If somebody posts a swastika, and uses it to critically talk about the nazi history, or the fertility symbol aspect of it, it’s not the same as if you’re posting it without comment in the context of a debate about racism, or in a PoC forum, etc.

  Context matters and changes what it is we’re looking at.

  Is it desirable to platform a community that basically says “jerking off to underage girls, but legal”? To put it another way…

  I would like to imagine fedinsfw as something beyond the boundaries of ordinary porn sites. It can be so much better. And I say this regardless of this aspect we are talking about, though, just to keep in mind.

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  • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    To put it plainly I was asking if the context matters more than the content, because I think it does. I agree the faux bait community shouldn’t exist but if you’re going argue that content shouldn’t be posted in the first place I’m going to disagree. Not because it’s my kind of content, at to be clear it very much is not, but because I think that’s the slippery slope. That would be saying small flatchested women porn is CP which means men who like those kinds of women are pedos and those women are essentially jailbait. I think that’s stupid.

    I think if we to improve the state of NSFW content we also need to be very specific in our wording of the criticism because how criticism is worded can change the context and as we agree, context matters. And that’s what I want from this discussion, clarity on what people are criticizing. Because the other person is right that the content there is not the problem, but he’s wrong because the reason to defed wasn’t because of the content itself but rather how it was framed. And I think you also blurred that line with the fiction story example.

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    • adhd_traco@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Looks like we effectively agree.

      I think if we to improve the state of NSFW content we also need to be very specific in our wording of the criticism because how criticism is worded can change the context and as we agree, context matters.

      Agreed! I think Multiverse made quite the effort and did a decent job. Misunderstandings and mistakes still happen, which is why just talking like this to get to our goal can be useful :)

      And I think you also blurred that line with the fiction story example.

      Thanks for the feedback. Reading it again now, I wouldn’t know how to express it differently. But I can see how this might not be clear to people not living in my head. Useful to know.

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  • Elting@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Unless all the guys arguing against you in this thread are teenagers, then they’re just trying to justify their own creepy behavior.

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    • adhd_traco@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Maybe. But for anyone reading who might be changing their minds. I’m not trying to step on anyone’s toes and guilt trip them or put them down.

      Because right now, we can look forward to how good fedinsfw can actually be. It just seems like the fediverse has a beautiful opportunity to re-imagine internet pornography. And it’s realising this opportunity that I am arguing for.

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      • Elting@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah I like porn but im scared of feddinsfw becoming what reddit is for porn.

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