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• porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.

  Genuinely not defending Russia here, but Dubya’s pretext for invading Iraq and Afghanistan was if anything even flimsier than the “justification” for the Ukraine invasion.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The estimates I’ve seen are 300.000 killed in Iraq. There’s more Russians killed alone than that, let alone Ukrainian military and civilian casualties…

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    • drath@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just 15172 civilian killed in Ukraine, according to UN, though. About 40k injured. That’s the lower estimate, yes, but, in comparison, the USA has committed more than 100k confirmed civilians kills in just Iraq alone.

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok, some in Yemen and Somalia too, but Wikipedia claims the cost of life of the gwot was 4.5 million, and I’ve seen credible estimates as high as 6.

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror

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  • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    and that war killed way more people, civilians and not.

    No it fucking didn’t.

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can just look up the numbers. 400k civilians directly killed, on the low end, millions more dead from famine and displacement. Versus like 15-20k in Ukraine

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• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Say what you want about Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far.

  Any point you might’ve had about land acquisition, separatism, or imperialism, is pretty hard invalidated by this comparison. Like, why add Bush as a qualifier?

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    To prevent tankies from accusing me of US bias.

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not helping your credibility

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Said the tankie…

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• Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Russian bombs are bad not because of the flag, but because they consistently target civilians indiscriminately

  Bush, even that war criminal didn’t go as far

  Could you provide us what numeric estimates you’re using for both conflicts?

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I did in another comment…

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    • Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Then copy paste them

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Too lazy

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