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Comment on Amazon BUSTED for Widespread Scheme to Inflate Prices Across the Economy— Amazon, its vendors, and competing retailers are price fixing, hiking up prices for consumer products

brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I’ve pointed out Valve doing basically the same thing; games can’t be priced lower than Steam or competing game storefronts (not Steam key resellers), or Valve will threaten do delist your game.

But personal loyalty goes a long way.

I’m trying to reframe the perspective here, not drag into an argument about Valve. A whole lot of people feel good about finding “deals” on Amazon or about Amazon services that have helped them. It’s easy for Lemmy to hate on Amazon, but for the average person, I think this is a harder sell than most of us realize. They’ll dismiss it as the “market working” or California sensationalism or, more likely, just filter it out as noise in their feed.

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NannerBanner@literature.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Valve’s not a good guy, but your attempt to “reframe the perspective” is lacking a major detail. If amazon were to simply GIVE you the product after you’ve paid the competitor then it’s quite a different story… yet that’s what steam will do.

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- emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Since when does steam just give away games just because you bought them from another storefront?
  
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  - brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I think they’re talking about Steam key resellers, which I wasn’t referencing. That’s a whole other thing (and can indeed be priced lower than the main storefront, I believe).
    
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blankwire@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The Valve example sounds similar, but I think Amazon is comparably more nefarious:

Valve chargers developers $100 per title, and a revenue sharing fee that starts at 30%

in exchange, devs must follow Valve’s content and pricing policies (which requires developers not to undercut Steam’s prices

Amazon has a few different tiers for sellers, but in general, they charge:

Monthly fees ($39.99 / mo)

Referral fees (8-15%)

Fulfillment and refund fees, which includes additional storage fees

Advertising fees (for keyword bids or sponsored products)

Valve is kind enough to offer free promotion on the home page (if your game is popular, or has a sale), and digital games are much easier to scale, versus manufacturing and holding physical inventory. They also do a lot of nefarious shit, but I’d argue at least their partners aren’t being squeezed quite as much.
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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  This is exactly my point; it’s easy to jump in and defend Valve for their good points when, at the end of the day, they take a third of all profits for themselves and have a pseudo monopoly with their platform.
  
  One can make similar points about Amazon, about how much they can save retailers, especially before they enshittified so significantly.
  
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TronBronson@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I boycott pretty much all the big corporations. I can’t really boycott Amazon because I am in a super rural part of the US and run a small business. Like most small businesses I purchase a lot of random doodads and thingamabobbers from china. Amazons monopoly on the US post office and their logistic network that gets bulk goods from china to my house is hard to live without. They fix more than prices, the whole economy is stacked in their favor. They basically won globalism and it was bad for the globe.

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- brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah…
  
  That’s how Amazon worked at first.
  
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  - TronBronson@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I didn’t invest because I always thought they would get broken up as a monopoly.
    
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    brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    But the point is that Valve could easily be Amazon some day. All these little companies taking their first anticompetitive steps could.
    
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