Comment on Lesbian group seeks legal exemption to exclude trans women from events
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day agoNo, the reality is that it DOES affect plenty of people I count as friends and family. It affects my wife, my daughters, my mother, my cousins, nieces, friends, and so on. They are who I’d affected and put at risk by allowing trans women into women’s sex segregated spaces.
If all it takes to get access to women’s changing rooms is to say you’re a woman, that’s what perverts and creeps will do - and this is what we’ve seen ever since this issue arose.
You’re saying that the entire population of females’ safety matters less than the feelings of the fraction of a percent of males who identify as women. Trans women aren’t in danger in men’s spaces. Men rape other men at an infinitely smaller rate than they do women. Women, however, are in danger if mean are allowed in women’s spaces simply by saying they are women.
The number of people murdered every year because they’re trans is close to zero in the western world.
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
congress.gov/…/HMKP-118-JU00-20240321-SD011.pdf
…org.au/transgender_day_of_remembrance_2020
tgeu.org/trans-murder-monitoring-2025-reveals-new…
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 15 hours ago
You missed a very important part of what I said - murdered because they were trans. You can’t just count every trans person that was murdered as being murdered because they were trans.
You’re also citing sources saying something like 50 trans people a year. That’s minuscule.
DrivebyHaiku@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
If you want the actual portion that get reported as a hate crime.
en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_people_killed_for_bein…
Be aware that transness is often a hidden statistic with a lot of reporting of deaths not valuing that information making it difficult to track. It’s common inside the trans community for people to disappear with news of their passing being hampered because reporting in press and statistics typically only feature deadnames and lists them by identifiers that only few people inside their communities recognize. Families actively bury evidence of trans people after they pass so there is a concerted effort inside communities to actually mark and make notes when someone dies.
If you want the numbers on people assaulted or injured for being trans it’s much, much higher.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10110792/
…law.ucla.edu/…/ncvs-trans-press-release/
The suicide attempt rate for young trans people sits around 72% of the population in places that pass bathroom bills compared to the baseline 40%.
For adults the rate of successful suicides of trans people is between 14 to 22 times that of the general population depending on factors of what variety of trans they are.
Add this to the fact all these “protections” for women aren’t actually protections for all women. It is protections for only the most feminine presenting women. Cis women have been injured or traumatized by being run out of spaces supposedly for them. People have lost their sports careers or faced worklace discrimination because of this. It’s basically leveraging people’s discomfort with a minority they don’t understand to roll back feminist wins of yesteryear. Certain parts of the fight are just bigots blinded to the fact they are shooting themselves in the foot but to a lot of the people pushing this narrative trans people may be how they are selling the poison but we are not the main prize to be won.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 7 hours ago
The goalpost never moved. Read my original comment and you’ll see that I was very clear in what I said.
Also your new Wikipedia (lol) source says something like less than 3 people per year are killed because they’re trans. That’s essentially zero in statistics.
The percentage of women who are assaulted for being women is significantly higher than those assaulted for being trans.
Suicide rates having nothing to do with this conversation.