Pretty sure that was dhh, the creator of rails being told he didn’t have enough experience in rails. I tried to find it, I found references to it, but the original was in Twitter.
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vrek@programming.dev 1 day agoThere was a viral post from Twitter or linkedin years ago of someone posting saying they wanted to hire someone with “10 years of experience using ruby”, a person replied, was told they didn’t meet the requirements, they said something like “look at my profile” …if you looked at the person’s profile they were the creator of ruby, they literally wrote the language. The language was only 7 years old.
I don’t even remember if it was ruby but the story is basically the same. Impossible requirements written by people who don’t even know what they need.
Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 1 day ago
vrek@programming.dev 1 day ago
Thanks. I guess it was rails and not ruby but still same idea. Rediculous that a creator doesn’t have enough experience. As I said I understand it’s probably hr and “people persons” writing stuff for “tech people”. Not an excuse just fact. It’s a sad, horrible fact. Anyways thanks for confirming my memory from years ago.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Friend of mine applied for a job where they asked for at least 5 years of experience with Angular version x.y.z (can’t remember the exact version). The friend responded that he had 10 years of experience with versions x-3 to x+1.
The HR person doing the hiring asked back “But do you have 5 years of experience with the exact version x.y.z?” to which he answered “Version x.y.z has only been out for 3 years so it’s impossible to have 5 years of experience with it.” HR wrote back saying that he was rejected because he didn’t have 5 years of experience of experience with that exact version.
pulsey@feddit.org 1 day ago
Letting HR make such decisions is already ridiculous, because they would have no clue what even working with version x.y.z means. For them it might sound like that you have experience working with win11, but they need somebody that knows win98.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
The process for this is usually like that:
- Software dev team lead: "We need another senior frontender."
- HR person: "Ok, what are you looking for?"
- Software dev team lead: "Someone who knows how to use Angular."
- HR person: "Great, so which version of Angular are you using?"
- Software dev team lead: "Version x.y.z"
- HR person (thinking, not saying): "Ok, so senior means 5+ years, so 5+ years of version x.y.z it is!"
- Also HR person: “Why can’t I find anyone who’s qualified?”
Gork@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Well if he did literally develop the web, that would indeed make him the web developer.
vrek@programming.dev 1 day ago
He did en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee and was knighted for it. Just funny that my understanding is his most recent resume claims he’s a “web developer” just like someone fresh out of a boot camp. No, you are THE web developer.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Well, this shows that the people in charge have no idea what they’re running, and are not adding any value. We’ve been brainwashed (by them being our eyeballs and brains) to think they do.
They do not.
I cannot stress this enough:
THEY DO NOT.
vrek@programming.dev 1 day ago
Agreed, sorta. The one caveat is that people hiring are typically hr, not technical people. In large companies they are there to fill out paperwork and limit company legal liability. They don’t need to know the difference between a unsigned char and a long variable in c.
The people is charge should have hired better people to have those roles. Also whoever wrote those requirements messed up. I learned a long time ago there are basically 2paths forward professionally, technical and management. issues arise when then the needs of those two mix and the person doing so is not up to the challenge.
People can design a 120 to 12 volt power supply on graph paper. Others can talk to 5 stake holders on a new product about what color the plastic container should be and have 1 answer and everyone happy that they won at the end. Both skill sets are valuable. The main issue is we, society, put so much value on the second group and severely limited the potential of the first.