Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"

• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Honestly, I’m in favour of this, but that worries me.

  In general, such actions will also raise the price of other goods as demand increase. You’d also need to keep non-meat prices low, and that’ll be expensive, meaning cuts elsewhere.

  Making the world vegan isn’t just about stopping the meat industry, that’s rather like pulling cogs from a machine and praying it still runs. It’s about designing a better machine that doesn’t need those cogs, sacrificing to build it, and making sure it really is better.

  For the vegan path that means sustainable agriculture (it isn’t at the moment), replicating tastes and caloric density (a key element of human culture), avoiding creating new issues (e.g. overuse of sugar, dietary issues with mycelial/nut sensitivity), and pushing food costs down.

  So, if you want the world to be vegan, drop your current life and start working on the above!

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  • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We throw so much veg and bread and everything away, I would say it’s likely there’s plenty for everyone to eat even if we stopped producing meat this very instance. But obviously no one is arguing for that because that isn’t feasible. We don’t have the numbers (yet) to force this.

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    • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Reduction in waste is also a key step yes, one in which gains are being made. Teaching simple preservation techniques (e.g. oven toasting old bread) is also a good route to doing this.

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      • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s not about the individuals, I wasn’t even thinking of a household throwing away food when I wrote the comment. But the tons and tons and tons and tons of groceries shops throw out because people didn’t buy it. The harvests that are left to rot because transporting them wouldn’t be profitable. I don’t think me throwing out three day old bread is going to be that much less wasteful than heating up the oven rehumidifying it.

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• mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You WILL eat your veggies and you WILL be happy!

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  • happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    there’s food that isn’t just veggies that also isn’t created from animal enslavement

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    • mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      True but most carnists weaning off the slaughter should be eating veggies until their body is in a good place again.

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      • happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        just eat whatever you find tasty lol

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