Wow did you write all those sentences all by yourself? Very good job! So impressive!
Something being useful doesn’t imply it’s good or beneficial. Those terms are not synonymous. It describes whether a thing achieves a particular goal or serves a specific purpose effectively.
A torture device is useful for extracting information. A landmine is useful for denying an area to enemy troops.
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Urist@leminal.space 3 days ago
No it fucking isn’t! This is a great analogy, actually, thank you for bringing it up. A person being tortured will tell you literally anything that they believe will stop you from torturing them. They will confess to crimes that never happened, tell you about all their accomplices who don’t exist, and all their daily schedules that were made up on the spot. Torture is useless but morons think it is useful. Just like AI.
Womble@piefed.world 3 days ago
Torture can be a useful way of extracting information if you have a way to instantly verify it, which actually makes it a good analogy to LLMs. If I want to know the password to your laptop and torture you until you give me the correct password and I log in then that works.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 days ago
If you can instantly verify it then you don’t need the torture.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 days ago
In fact it cannot ever be a useful way of extracting information. Even just randomly guessing is a better way to get the information you want than torture.
Womble@piefed.world 2 days ago
I’m not saying its anything other than morally repugnant, obviously, but in the example of a password with billions or trillions of combinations and where you can check the answers given torture pretty obviously is better than guessing.
That’s not a scenario that is ever likely to come up, and wouldn’t be justifiable even if it did, but pretending it wouldnt be effective is ridiculous.