Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 9 hours agoWhat would you call the act of nonconsensually sticking your dick into your dog, and do you think it’s horrible?
Raping a dog is bad, yes.
Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 9 hours agoWhat would you call the act of nonconsensually sticking your dick into your dog, and do you think it’s horrible?
Raping a dog is bad, yes.
Dojan@pawb.social 7 hours ago
So a dog is someone and that’s what makes it rape? Where do you draw the line for someone? Is it the act of rape itself that’s bad, or is it the perpetrator getting sexual satisfaction from it? What if they don’t do it for that purpose, but some other more abstract reason? Is it okay then?
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
You thought you had me. Your argument is invalid and includes logical fallacies, because you’ve swapped the original situation, which was artificial insemination of livestock, for having sex with a pet. These are not comparable.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence
Whether a dog is “someone” is irrelevant. Forcibly impregnating someone is rape. Artificially inseminating livestock is not rape. Having sex with a pet animal is rape. Having sex with a consenting adult is not rape. Different things actually are, in fact, different.
Dojan@pawb.social 6 hours ago
So it is the societal and cultural context that dictates whether it is okay or not, and not something actually tangible and measurable? Then I hope we may shift that context a bit to perhaps treat animals a bit less like robots overall, and individual living creatures with their own emotional lives and complexities.
Tradition, and personal satisfaction is a poor excuse to continue something abusive.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Yes, of course. This is quite literally what defines morality itself. There is no universal, tangible, or measurable morality.
Okay.
Yes, which is why it is good that we aren’t doing anything abusive by artificially inseminating livestock.