Well, would you rather go extinct or be born just to live a life of misery, forever
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MrSelfDestruct25@fedinsfw.app 1 month ago
Serious question, wouldn’t cows and chickens basically become extinct if we didn’t use them for food? Cows can’t reproduce on their own and chickens would be easily killed by wild animals.
astraeus@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
mech@feddit.org 1 month ago
What’s your point behind this question?
That vegans are actually the ones killing off cows and chickens?kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 month ago
There are more chickens on Earth than humans. I understand your question is hypotetical, but it is more likely we humans are going extinct before chickens.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Not long before, though.
snooggums@piefed.world 1 month ago
Cows and chickens can reproduce on their own. For chickens to reproduce you just need a rooster around. For cows you just need a bull.
The forced insemination is actively deciding which animal is bred with which other animal and when. It is a control thing with more reliability than just having them together in the same field and hoping it worked out. Without humans they would reproduce just fine.
As a species they would likely struggle for a while as they adapted to not being protected from predators and being able to freely roam would result in some roaming places where there wasn’t enough food and water. Out of the millions of cattle there would be plenty of successes and they would live on and adapt.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 month ago
Cows can reproduce on their own, and here’s an article on feral chickens - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_chicken
So no, neither animal needs humans for the survival of the species.
THE_World_Wide_Web@lemmy.org 1 month ago
I got predators all around me. Couldn’t keep guineas because of it. Most ducks don’t make it here either. But I have had plenty of chickens avoid predators and survive without my help. People dump their roosters here. And while they can’t typically fly, they can roost up in a tree at night for safety or hang out in a group and alert each other of danger.
gigachad@piefed.social 1 month ago
Most of the animals are bred sick just to maximize production. The answer to your question is self regulation - the amount of animals we are producing is absolutely unnatural. It is not like millions of chickens would populate the world if we wouldn’t exist. They are artificially fabricated in factories.
Why should a cow bred for maximizing milk production should exist and what should they do, jump around in the fields? A normal cow from some decades ago could get older than 20, while they are nowadays bred to produce as much milk as possible and die within 5-6 years.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
They don’t die in 5-6 years, they stop producing milk in high quantities and are slaughtered and used as low quality beef.