Comment on Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College

• PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Votes are counted equality in the electoral system

  No they aren’t, they are weighted by state, and if your state votes against you your vote essentially gets tossed out in favor of the candidate you voted against.

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  They literally are not counted equally.

  The votes still count no matter which state they are from.

  A red vote in a blue state gets ignored. A blue vote in a red state gets ignored. That is a terrible design.

  And votes shouldn’t just all count, all of them should be counted equally, instead we get the vote of a

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  • jimbolauski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So you’ve shifted from votes only matter in swing states to votes only matter if their side wins and smaller states have a higher elector to population rates.

    None of that matters, each person’s vote is counted once. You are conflating the outcome of the election to whether the vote counts. It’s like saying everyone who voted against an issue that passed vote did not count.

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    • PizzaMan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So you’ve shifted from votes only matter in swing states to votes only matter

      No, I haven’t shifted, I’m describing several different problems.

      • Swing states are the only ones that make a difference. That’s why candidates only visit swing states for the most part.

      • Votes are ignored when your state votes against you (Ex: California votes 51% blue 49% red, but 100% of the electoral votes go to blue, effectively ignoring half the voters). Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

      • Each vote is weighted differently based on citizen location, which is antithetical to democracy

      None of that matters, each person’s vote is counted once.

      This is irrelevant, the issue is not the number of times counted, it’s how it’s counted.

      You are conflating the outcome of the election to whether the vote counts.

      That is quite literally how the electoral vote works. Blue votes from Texas are ignored, with the electoral votes going to red.

      It’s like saying everyone who voted against an issue that passed vote did not count.

      Maybe that’d be true if electoral votes reflected the actual vote within a state, but they don’t, it’s almost always winner take all.

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      • jimbolauski@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Swing states are not the only votes that make a difference. If enough people believed that in a solid state and didn’t vote the outcome would change ie their vote counts.

        Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.

        Your vote doesn’t get changed based on the outcome it stays the same. It is still counted.

        Issue voting is winner take all and unless I missed it you don’t have a problem with that.

        What you are asking for is a more granular representation for votes, not to “make everyone’s vote count”.

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