Comment on Majority of Americans continue to favor moving away from Electoral College
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year agopeople’s votes won’t matter as the margin will be more than 100,000 their vote makes no difference
But each of those votes are counted the same, and I don’t want FPTP like you seem to think.
Instead I want STAR or approval voting. So that complaint doesn’t really apply because with both STAR and approval, each vote is counted equally, and give you more control over how your vote contributes to the final count.
jimbolauski@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Votes are counted equality in the electoral system, popular voting, ranking systems, or approval. Your perceived value of a vote in the swing states vs a vote in solid states is just that. The votes still count no matter which state they are from.
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No they aren’t, they are weighted by state, and if your state votes against you your vote essentially gets tossed out in favor of the candidate you voted against.
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They literally are not counted equally.
A red vote in a blue state gets ignored. A blue vote in a red state gets ignored. That is a terrible design.
And votes shouldn’t just all count, all of them should be counted equally, instead we get the vote of a
jimbolauski@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So you’ve shifted from votes only matter in swing states to votes only matter if their side wins and smaller states have a higher elector to population rates.
None of that matters, each person’s vote is counted once. You are conflating the outcome of the election to whether the vote counts. It’s like saying everyone who voted against an issue that passed vote did not count.
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, I haven’t shifted, I’m describing several different problems.
Swing states are the only ones that make a difference. That’s why candidates only visit swing states for the most part.
Votes are ignored when your state votes against you (Ex: California votes 51% blue 49% red, but 100% of the electoral votes go to blue, effectively ignoring half the voters). Your vote should go to your choice, not the opposition.
Each vote is weighted differently based on citizen location, which is antithetical to democracy
This is irrelevant, the issue is not the number of times counted, it’s how it’s counted.
That is quite literally how the electoral vote works. Blue votes from Texas are ignored, with the electoral votes going to red.
Maybe that’d be true if electoral votes reflected the actual vote within a state, but they don’t, it’s almost always winner take all.