Comment on British Museum removes ‘Palestine’ from ancient Middle East displays

napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  ‘Levantine’ would have been a more accurate term. The ‘Canaanite’ term is specifically what’s used to differentiate from ‘Hebrews’ in zionism, both before and after Israel was created. Biblically Canaanites are Phoenecians, which are one of many Levantine tribes and city states of the Bronze and Biblical eras.

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  • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    AFAIK it is common practice to call them Canaanites:

    Thus, while “Phoenician” and “Canaanite” refer to the same culture, archaeologists and historians commonly refer to the Bronce Age pre-1200 BC Levantine peoples as Canaanites, while their Iron Age descendants, particularly those living on the coast, are referred to as Phoenicians.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan

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    • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Not disputing that, but even in that section of explanatory text it uses ‘Levantine peoples’.

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      • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Well Levantine is the broader term, so you need it to define the more specific term Canaanite.

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Didn’t the Bible also say that they were literal giants?

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    • als@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Also that people can be resurrected, that matter can be duplicated and all sorts of other bullshit

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    • fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Some say what they were so large you could crawl into their anuses and use them as a type of motorcade. Giddy up.

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• Avicenna@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Cultural descendants of Palestinians did exist in Canaan at the time around 1200BC. I doubt that anywhere in that museum you would be able to find information about this though. Because the whole point of this debacle is a childish claim of the form “Our descendants was there first!”. If British Museum had any balls they would make this correction and add the history of Philistines next to it but we all know they wouldn’t do it and why.

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  • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The text changed in the museum refers to the origins of a specific line of Egyptian kings around 1650 BC. I think neither the history of the Philistines nor the history of the kingdom of Israel is relevant to this.

    As to the question if they have the history of Palestine/Israel/Canaan/Levant somewhere else in the museum? I don’t know. If not, they would have a serious knowledge gap there. That topic deserves its own space, not a footnote in the Egyptian section.

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• IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  what time period exactly? because Palestine is mentioned during the bronze age collapse. it’s pretty old.

  although they refer to a specific group of people that settled a specific area.

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  • napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Apparently it is about the Hyksos, so 1650 - 1550 BC.

    The oldest mention of the predecessor term “Peleset” is from 1150 BC.

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    • IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      that would make sense then, given that at the time the Palestinians (Peleset) weren’t even in the area, as they likely came from Cyprus with the Sea people.

      similarly, Jews weren’t there either, as they come from Babilonia. so cnaan makes sense.

      that being said, there’s much Palestinian erasure it makes sense to be hyper vigilant

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• fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s just Canaanites hating Canaanites hating Canaanites.

  Thanks God! 😂

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