Comment on If you had any doubts that Know-Your-Customer laws were evil, here is one very good reason: personal data of 1 BILLION people just leaked.

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• WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Bruh, the ultra rich have operated state sanctioned child rape islands for several decades. Do you really think KYC has any impact on their crimes?

  If so, I have a bridge you might be interested in acquiring…

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  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    those crimes in specific? no.

    in how they carried out specific other crimes? yeah, it changed methodology at very least. it sounds like you don’t understand KYC. it was not targeted at sex trafficking.

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    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      HSBC enabled fraud in the hundreds of billions, and they didn’t have even remotely equivalent consequences.

      How about only accepting measures that impose great risk on the privacy of the working class once corporate and political criminals face the same level of “justice” and consequences as the working class?

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      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I was not equating those crimes

        uh yeah you were

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• herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  KYC does nothing against rich people. Panama Papers came out and nothing happened. Law enforcement does not target rich people.

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  • BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yep. KYC is to stop the movement of funds that could be used to undermine the system. A.k.a terrorism.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Terrorism as defined by whom? Because those protesting Israel are soon terrorists. Animal rights defenders. Environmental protesters especially opposing oil pipelines and the like, climate protesters, people protesting the police, etc.

      This is going to get really bad, the mask is off, they aren’t pretending to operate government according to the rules, or to be believable. The terrorists they will be targeting are those protesting the plutocracy ass fucking people without their consent.

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      • BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Exactly. Anything that undermines the billionaire narrative.

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    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also tax evasion.

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  • DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Don’t use that example. Look up consequences of Panama Papers. At least say that nothing happened in USA, land of the corrupt, home of the slaves.

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• Broken@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I agree that KYC isn’t inherently evil. But the way its been weaponized is.

  For instance in the telecommunications space it make total sense for mitigating spam SMS messages and Robocalls. But the carriers all sell your data for profit. They also don’t protect your data properly and are breached all the time. That’s malicious.

  So no, I won’t throw the baby out with the bathwater and agree its an oversimplification to simply call KYC evil. But I also don’t blame people when all they see is abuse and never a good and proper implementation that isn’t exploitative.

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• HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There’s also an execution problem.

  Truly knowing your customer might produce very different outcomes than the current compliance checkbox approach.

  “I know Fred just sold his old car. The idea he suddenly has $12k in cash is not suspicious” or “Jane’s been talking about going to Montreal for momths. We should not block her card when it lights up there.”. That’s real KYC, but it requires human connection and human judgement, which doesn’t scale and doesn’t provide the right paperwork for demonstrating compliance with arbitrary mandates.

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  • ClownStatue@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There’s also an execution problem.

    There absolutely is. Way too many of these fuckers are still breathing.

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