report bad faith posts
You’re supposed to report posts that break instance or community rules, not whatever you happen to consider to be “bad faith”. Moderators are not the arbiters of intent.
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Telorand@reddthat.com 21 hours agoMy instance has downvotes turned off (which I like). That action only benefits people who care about downvotes.
The better option that helps everyone is to report bad faith posts.
rtxn@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Telorand@reddthat.com 19 hours ago
You’re supposed to report posts that break instance or community rules, not whatever you happen to consider to be “bad faith”.
This isn’t Reddit. Mods aren’t beholden to some set of standards handed down by moneyed interests. They’re real people with (hopefully) common sense and a desire to create something better than Reddit.
Besides, even if your instance has disabled downvotes, other instances can still see them.
That’s my point. If instances like mine can’t see downvotes, it’s excluding people like me, because people can’t be bothered to report. Furthermore, all it is is a popularity contest. “A bunch of people don’t like it” is no guarantee you won’t, nor does it demonstrate that the content is in fact garbage; it just shows a bunch of people don’t like it.
rtxn@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I’d love to know what an actual moderator would think if you imposed your idea on them.
Telorand@reddthat.com 18 hours ago
If you mean a mod from this comm, I’d love some clarity on this matter, too.
But as a general application, what would that tell you? Moderators aren’t some special class of people; they’re regular people who volunteer.
The better question is: what would you do if you were a moderator? Would you want to review and remove a post that was potentially AI slop, or would you keep it and let users rely on downvotes and sorting?
For my part, if a particular community’s mods aren’t interested in clamping down on AI slop, then I know where I don’t want to be.
punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 20 hours ago
Looks like your comment is receiving downvotes just fine…
Maybe this thread is a lesson in how downvotes have a purpose and why instances turning them off is silly puritanical nonsense that serves to aid bad content more than anything else it purports to achieve.
Telorand@reddthat.com 19 hours ago
On your instance, yes. Those downvotes get dropped on my side, so I can’t see them, and neither can anyone else on a non-downvote instance. My proposal would address the issue of slop for everyone, whereas downvote proponents are just saying, “Yeah, well my way is better. Lemmy is only for people who do it my way.”
If this thread is a lesson in anything, it’s that the bad habits of Reddit carried over, and people are so fucking lazy, they can’t be bothered to click the report button.
punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
If anything you’re the one being obtuse and saying your way is better and that people must adapt to your way. Downvotes are the default behaviour of the software and the “reddit-like” experience of Lemmy
Telorand@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
If better means “more inclusive,” then yes. It’s better. Did I say to stop downvoting? No. Did I tell people to abandon their downvoting-enabled instances? No (though have a look and see how I’ve been told multiple times to leave mine).
Dunno why people are hellbent on excluding people who don’t want optional downvotes when non-optional reporting exists.
But do go on about how I’m excluding the poor instances with downvotes by recommending an inclusive action that they also benefit from.