Social media has muddied the water since I was a kid but I was raw dogging the Internet mostly unsupervised since I was in 5th grade and ran into all sorts of shit. Knowing not to give up any personal information about myself was all I really needed to feel safe. It was never something I even considered doing. I still don’t have any social media with my identity other than a very outdated and minimal LinkedIn. Not sure how a kid could take that advice seriously from their parents who’ve been blasting anything and everything about them all over social media since they were born though.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 8 hours ago
As much as I think this is all terrible and that Roblox SHOULD answer for some of this shit, the fact of the matter is, PARENTS ARE NOT TEACHING KIDS HOW TO BE SAFE IN THE INTERNET. They just throw a fucking tablet or phone or console or PC screen in front of their eyes and refuse to do ANYTHING resembling parenting, and when their kid inevitably gets groomed they blame the platform and ask for daddy government to do their parenting for them.
Set parental controls, teach kids to not trust strangers and give them basic internet safety tips, and none of this shit will ever happen.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
Ancalagon@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Facts. Feels good to subsidize parents and have their shitty kids be the reasons to take my rights.
morto@piefed.social 4 hours ago
PARENTS ARE NOT TEACHING KIDS
Unfortunately, it always has been like this for everything
[Sad astronaut gun meme]
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 hours ago
Set parental controls
This is what they are suing about.
Don’t sign away the rights of other adults
What rights do you think are being “signed away” in this lawsuit about Roblox not providing functional parental controls and moderation?
I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding of what is actually happening here.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 hours ago
Probably talking about invasive shit like what discord just did.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 hours ago
Which they are already doing in the shittiest way possible, and is only a small part of the problem the lawsuit notes.
Which is why I’ve been asking, they can’t answer because they dont know what they are talking about, they are concerned about a single (almost tangential) element of the problem - which Roblox already is doing, and only because they keep getting sued for catering to predators.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Because those parents are pushing for age verification stuff, that has already been confirmed by hackers to be sent straight to the DOJ and ICE to make a database and link people’s internet profiles to their real names.
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 5 hours ago
Thats not the only means of age verification.
Do you know how they are doing verification currently? Because I bet you won’t like it.
Mandatory facial verification, processed by AI. This was the response made by Roblox to them being sued over having nonfunctional controls for parents, and doing nothing about the predators on their platform.
So I’ll ask again - what rights do you think are being taken away here?
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 5 hours ago
Did you not read the Twitter thread? The facial verification is shared with Palantir, the DOJ, and ICE. Yes, including Roblox’s. What makes you think the DOJ would NOT try to build a profile on someone going through age verification who’s brown enough to be considered an “illegal” and possibly detain or deport them if they criticize ICE?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Parents’ refusal to parent is why regulation is essential.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 7 hours ago
You’re not allowed to take someone else’s rights because someone else is a fucking irresponsible idiot. That’s not how this works.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
People made that exact same argument over seat belt laws.
SalamenceFury@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Seat belts are different because if someone is in a car is not wearing one and carrying passengers, that person will become a 200 pound pinball in case of a crash and crush everyone else to death. Do YOU want to sign away your ability to criticize Trump and ICE because some dipshit parent didn’t do what they’re supposed to fucking do and got their kid groomed?
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Yeah, agree with everything you said. I let my kids play Roblox. I play with them sometimes, been playing some silly Shawarma game, it freaks them out.
So far, the biggest thing we talk about is this desire of every game to enter your wallet, and I tell them that a game shouldn’t be asking you for money, and now they both get annoyed at games that ask for money. I like to think I’ve created a safe environment for them to play in, and when the environment becomes something else, they ask me about it.
So mainly right now the worst that happens is the game is bullshit and they get mad, and I say hey, this game is bullshit (in more PG language), and we move on.
I firmly believe that prohibition just leads to curiosity. I think it’s impossible to insulate them from shit these days, so I’ll be part of their exposure, and hopefully I can help them learn.