Comment on California’s New Bill Requires DOJ-Approved 3D Printers That Report on Themselves

SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “3d printing guns” isn’t about the pressure holding parts, it’s about the traceable serial number holding parts. On most firearms the “lower assembly” or “receiver” (frame, trigger group, feeding assy) is legally considered the firearm and is what bears the serial. Most of those can be printed and use off the shelf hardware to work, albeit with a much lower lifespan.
  Pressure containing wear parts that are meant to be exchanged (barrel and breech bolt) typically do not carry serials and are thus not normally traceable. If you eliminate the serialized, traceable part of the firearm, then any collection of parts could be used.

  That said, eliminating an entire hobby and industry because gun serialization laws haven’t been updated in a hundred years is probably not the right way to do it.

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  • RedMari@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is printing a lower less illegal than removing the serial number? Must be, otherwise what’s the point other than cost?

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    • ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes. In most of the US removing q serial is explicitly illegal, while manufacturing a firearm for personal use (sans serial) is completely legal.

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    • tomalley8342@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Serialized parts have their purchases recorded and restricted, other parts are (usually) unrestricted.

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      • RedMari@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        How would they connect a serialized part to a purchase if the serial number is completely gone? I guess 3d printing would also allow those who are unable to legally buy the parts to get them too.

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  • Attacker94@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Unless I am missing something obvious, the simplest solution is to require both uppers and lowers to be stamped. As far as I can tell, this would only be a burden to manufacturers unless there are some weird interactions with the idiotic “stamped part is gun” definition of a firearm.

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That doesn’t make much sense as a law against printers, since it’s far easier and just as illegal to grind off the serial numbers on a gun.

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