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• davel@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They are very clearly distinguishable, just not to you yet. Until recently, you’d only ever heard disagreements coming from your right, so you confuse disagreements coming from your left with them.

  • ‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense – the far right and far left have little in common
  • Are the far-left and far-right merging together? That’s what the ‘horseshoe theory’ of politics says, but it’s wrong

   
  Liberalism in fact has more in common with fascism than socialism: they’re both capitalist ideologies. Previously.

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• LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I legitimately need to check users post histories to understand which extreme they are on

  If you can’t tell the difference between “media owned by the wealthy reproduces their ideology” and Q-Anon, that might be a problem with you and not others.

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  • Montagge@lemmy.zip ⁨38⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Ain’t much difference between MAGA and tankies.

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• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s very easy to distinguish if you actually act in good faith, which you clearly don’t

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• DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Examples?

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  • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The comment I replied to vs. this from QAnon page on Wikipedia.

    The cabal is thought to cover up its existence by controlling politicians, mainstream media, and Hollywood.

    Only difference is that your side is “right”

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    • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only difference is that your side is “right”

      lmao, it seems you’re the perfect centrist. By this standard, “the Holocaust happened” and “white genocide in South Africa happened” are both equally valid statements. Do you see how ridiculous it is to just group statements by superficial similarity and treat them as equivalent regardless of the substance of the claims or the evidence?

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      • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I never said those were equal statements

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    • DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Billionaires controlling the media for manufacturing consent is not a new idea, and even then, leftists/QAnon people have very different views on it anyway. Leftists don’t believe there is some secret cabal, the ruling class is very blatant. Right wingers believe in some deep state or the rothschilds, who are a jewish family, “control the narrative”, they don’t care about class struggle. This comparison makes very little sense.

      Also-

      QAnon centers on fabricated claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals known as “Q”. Those claims have been relayed and developed by online communities and influencers. Their core belief is that a cabal of Satanic,[3][4][5] cannibalistic child molesters in league with the deep state is operating a global child sex trafficking ring and that Donald Trump is secretly leading the fight against them.[9] QAnon has direct roots in Pizzagate, another conspiracy theory that appeared on the Internet one year earlier, but also incorporates elements of many different conspiracy theories and unifies them into a larger interconnected theory

      I’m not seeing the relations to “left extremes” here at all.

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      • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I don’t believe the horseshoe theory. Far left and far right have a number of stark differences such as religion, economic policy, etc. I just believe that both sides are fringe cult-like environments, particularly when it comes to isolating yourselves and ideology control. Occasionally, I see other similarities.

        Imo, far left isn’t clearly closer to the far right in most beliefs, except cult-like behavior

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    • Uruanna@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You are reducing both sides to an extreme and extracting a single quote from both of them - “corporate media is lying to you to protect politicians preying on children” . You understand that one side is right and the other isn’t - where do you think the difference appears? Certainly not at the extreme surface level of a single quote you are picking.

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      • reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The statement is that far left makes similarly culty statements like “X entity is hiding evidence that supports our views from the general public”. It’s the “everyone except us lies” part of the culty belief. My statement is that both far left and far right have fringe beliefs that are culty or close to it.

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