Sometimes the further left extremes I’ve heard hear are indistinguishable from conservative Q-Anon. I legitimately need to check users post histories to understand which extreme they are on
They are very clearly distinguishable, just not to you yet. Until recently, you’d only ever heard disagreements coming from your right, so you confuse disagreements coming from your left with them.
I legitimately need to check users post histories to understand which extreme they are on
If you can’t tell the difference between “media owned by the wealthy reproduces their ideology” and Q-Anon, that might be a problem with you and not others.
Communists and fascists are diametric opposites. Communists seek to collectivize production and distribution to fulfill the needs of everyone. Fascists seek the preservation of private property and the extermination of labor organizers. Lazily equating the two and doing nothing to back it up is just “enlightened” centrism.
lmao, it seems you’re the perfect centrist. By this standard, “the Holocaust happened” and “white genocide in South Africa happened” are both equally valid statements. Do you see how ridiculous it is to just group statements by superficial similarity and treat them as equivalent regardless of the substance of the claims or the evidence?
Billionaires controlling the media for manufacturing consent is not a new idea, and even then, leftists/QAnon people have very different views on it anyway. Leftists don’t believe there is some secret cabal, the ruling class is very blatant. Right wingers believe in some deep state or the rothschilds, who are a jewish family, “control the narrative”, they don’t care about class struggle. This comparison makes very little sense.
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QAnon centers on fabricated claims made by an anonymous individual or individuals known as “Q”. Those claims have been relayed and developed by online communities and influencers. Their core belief is that a cabal of Satanic,[3][4][5] cannibalistic child molesters in league with the deep state is operating a global child sex trafficking ring and that Donald Trump is secretly leading the fight against them.[9] QAnon has direct roots in Pizzagate, another conspiracy theory that appeared on the Internet one year earlier, but also incorporates elements of many different conspiracy theories and unifies them into a larger interconnected theory
I’m not seeing the relations to “left extremes” here at all.
You are reducing both sides to an extreme and extracting a single quote from both of them - “corporate media is lying to you to protect politicians preying on children” . You understand that one side is right and the other isn’t - where do you think the difference appears? Certainly not at the extreme surface level of a single quote you are picking.
reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Sometimes the further left extremes I’ve heard hear are indistinguishable from conservative Q-Anon. I legitimately need to check users post histories to understand which extreme they are on
davel@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
They are very clearly distinguishable, just not to you yet. Until recently, you’d only ever heard disagreements coming from your right, so you confuse disagreements coming from your left with them.
Liberalism in fact has more in common with fascism than socialism: they’re both capitalist ideologies. Previously.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
If you can’t tell the difference between “media owned by the wealthy reproduces their ideology” and Q-Anon, that might be a problem with you and not others.
Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Ain’t much difference between MAGA and tankies.
agentant@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Ain’t much difference between nazis and the people who stopped the nazis, apparently. /s
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Communists and fascists are diametric opposites. Communists seek to collectivize production and distribution to fulfill the needs of everyone. Fascists seek the preservation of private property and the extermination of labor organizers. Lazily equating the two and doing nothing to back it up is just “enlightened” centrism.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Sure, if you’re a moron
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
It’s very easy to distinguish if you actually act in good faith, which you clearly don’t
DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Examples?
reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The comment I replied to vs. this from QAnon page on Wikipedia.
Only difference is that your side is “right”
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
lmao, it seems you’re the perfect centrist. By this standard, “the Holocaust happened” and “white genocide in South Africa happened” are both equally valid statements. Do you see how ridiculous it is to just group statements by superficial similarity and treat them as equivalent regardless of the substance of the claims or the evidence?
DiscoAssBlazer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Billionaires controlling the media for manufacturing consent is not a new idea, and even then, leftists/QAnon people have very different views on it anyway. Leftists don’t believe there is some secret cabal, the ruling class is very blatant. Right wingers believe in some deep state or the rothschilds, who are a jewish family, “control the narrative”, they don’t care about class struggle. This comparison makes very little sense.
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I’m not seeing the relations to “left extremes” here at all.
Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You are reducing both sides to an extreme and extracting a single quote from both of them - “corporate media is lying to you to protect politicians preying on children” . You understand that one side is right and the other isn’t - where do you think the difference appears? Certainly not at the extreme surface level of a single quote you are picking.