Comment on Australia’s Social Media Ban Is Isolating Kids With Disabilities—Just Like Critics Warned

• rimu@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I was not prepared, however, to find absolutely no evidence.

  Hold up, hold up.

  Here are plenty of studies - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=attention+span+social+media&btnG=

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is nothing more low effort than linking to search results for words without any additional context or any indicators which of the search results are relevant or even necessarily support your conclusions…

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    • rimu@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The claim was that there is no evidence. To disprove that all I had to do was find one piece of evidence. I found several with 5 seconds of work. Why are you not putting in that amount of effort? Is it because you are too angry to consider alternative points of view?

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is a search result for four words, not a list of positive evidence supporting your argument…?

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• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Ok so let’s use that logic of who gets the authority to decide.

  As a child would it be ok for you to watch porn all day? I mean what’s stopping you? The government with their R, MA, NR ratings? Why not just let children smoke? Who has the authority to question what we do with our bodies? We should be selling smokes and alcohol to minors cause why listen to anything the professionals and government says?

  Why are you following those rules? That’s just being intellectually lazy since others are telling you what to do.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As a child would it be ok for you to watch porn all day?

    How does this relate to the conversation at hand?.. further do you honestly believe porn isn’t accessible to people under 18…???..???..???

    Why not just let children smoke?

    What evidence do you have that letting kids access social media is equivalent to exposing them to one of the most physically addictive cancer causing agents on earth?

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    • Mpatch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Bud, you’re stuned. It’s bad, its fucking up kids. You are in denial flat our running the tobacco playbook.

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• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  For starters, requiring ID verification. That is something that is very obviously easy for an adult to provide and for a child not to. At the end of the day, that will be for each individual country to decide.

  Though I imagine over the long-term there will be more nuanced solutions.

  The problem of people losing their cognitive abilities is far more consequential than a small group of people having a more difficult time because they don’t socialize easily. I’m just looking at the bigger issue here.

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  • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The problem of people losing their cognitive abilities

    Cite your sources or don’t casually assert such claims

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t exist to entertain you, and I don’t find your ideological bent worth more of my time.

      Have a pleasant evening. :)

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t want entertainment, I want you to think harder before you resort to kneejerk reactions.

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    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How about this tidbit from the article you linked in the OP? I’m guessing you didn’t actually read any of it past the headline because it certainly doesn’t say what you seem to think it does. What an intellectually lazy thing to do.

      In 2018, the World Health Organization recognized gaming disorder as a mental health condition that intrudes detrimentally into an addicted gamer’s sleep, work, education and ability to foster and maintain relationships in real life, while also impacting memory, attention span and stress management.

      SOCIAL MEDIA

      Social media addiction hasn’t been officially recognized, Falcione said, “but it’s pretty clear – at least within the literature – that it seems to be transposable to the extent that all the criteria for gaming disorder also apply to a social media or smartphone addiction.”

      There are three main criteria, she explained. The first is that the person feels a need to use that media more and more, which can build a tolerance similar to that experienced by drug addicts. Second, she continues, “there’s a salience that it becomes the most prominent thing in your life — it’s what you think about the most, it’s what you want to do the most, and even if you’re not on your phone, you’re thinking about it, craving it and choosing it over other activities that may need your attention.” The third criteria is that its use creates internal conflict or turmoil as it interferes with relationships or obligations to work or school.

      “For teens and college students, when you see those grades drop, that’s a big signal that the media use is actually becoming detrimental,” Falcione said.

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      • Mpatch@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Don’t feed the dipshit troll. It is trying to get people bent out of shape with a long-term agenda.

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      • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I included that to show some breadth in my evidence, but the evidence for gaming addiction is fraught with structural issues as well. Certainly people get addicted to video games, but it is also decidedly a moral panic and thus comparing social media to it weakens the case for banning it in my opinion.

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