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Comment on Australia’s Social Media Ban Is Isolating Kids With Disabilities—Just Like Critics Warned

FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Seeing as how the linked article is an editorial, I took a look at the link from the Guardian.

And it’s all people saying how it’s more difficult to talk to their friends now. But how? You still have a phone that dials numbers. Your parents, presumably, have the ability to access social media and obtain any numbers you need.

The last line reiterates how, while this is ultimately a parental failing, the parental failing has been so astronomical and the harm to kids’ cognitive abilities and mental stability so profound that regulation is essential.

I look forward to the day when social media use is banned globally for all underage people, and if you need more information as to why, go speak to any schoolteacher in America who can’t get their students to pay attention for more than 60 seconds, or who can’t retain information that is literally written on the board in front of them.

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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Why are you here then?

How the hell are you going to ban all underage people from social media and who gets the authority to decide the details of that?

You are being intellectually lazy and it shows.

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- rimu@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  I was not prepared, however, to find absolutely no evidence.
  
  Hold up, hold up.
  
  Here are plenty of studies - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=attention+span+social+media&btnG=
  
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  - supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨22⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    There is nothing more low effort than linking to search results for words without any additional context or any indicators which of the search results are relevant or even necessarily support your conclusions…
    
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- not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Ok so let’s use that logic of who gets the authority to decide.
  
  As a child would it be ok for you to watch porn all day? I mean what’s stopping you? The government with their R, MA, NR ratings? Why not just let children smoke? Who has the authority to question what we do with our bodies? We should be selling smokes and alcohol to minors cause why listen to anything the professionals and government says?
  
  Why are you following those rules? That’s just being intellectually lazy since others are telling you what to do.
  
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  - supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    As a child would it be ok for you to watch porn all day?
    
    How does this relate to the conversation at hand?.. further do you honestly believe porn isn’t accessible to people under 18…???..???..???
    
    Why not just let children smoke?
    
    What evidence do you have that letting kids access social media is equivalent to exposing them to one of the most physically addictive cancer causing agents on earth?
    
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    Mpatch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago
    Bud, you’re stuned. It’s bad, its fucking up kids. You are in denial flat our running the tobacco playbook.
    
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- FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  For starters, requiring ID verification. That is something that is very obviously easy for an adult to provide and for a child not to. At the end of the day, that will be for each individual country to decide.
  
  Though I imagine over the long-term there will be more nuanced solutions.
  
  The problem of people losing their cognitive abilities is far more consequential than a small group of people having a more difficult time because they don’t socialize easily. I’m just looking at the bigger issue here.
  
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  - supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    The problem of people losing their cognitive abilities
    
    Cite your sources or don’t casually assert such claims
    
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    FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I don’t exist to entertain you, and I don’t find your ideological bent worth more of my time.
    
    Have a pleasant evening. :)
    
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    CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    How about this tidbit from the article you linked in the OP? I’m guessing you didn’t actually read any of it past the headline because it certainly doesn’t say what you seem to think it does. What an intellectually lazy thing to do.
    
    In 2018, the World Health Organization recognized gaming disorder as a mental health condition that intrudes detrimentally into an addicted gamer’s sleep, work, education and ability to foster and maintain relationships in real life, while also impacting memory, attention span and stress management.
    
    SOCIAL MEDIA
    
    Social media addiction hasn’t been officially recognized, Falcione said, “but it’s pretty clear – at least within the literature – that it seems to be transposable to the extent that all the criteria for gaming disorder also apply to a social media or smartphone addiction.”
    
    There are three main criteria, she explained. The first is that the person feels a need to use that media more and more, which can build a tolerance similar to that experienced by drug addicts. Second, she continues, “there’s a salience that it becomes the most prominent thing in your life — it’s what you think about the most, it’s what you want to do the most, and even if you’re not on your phone, you’re thinking about it, craving it and choosing it over other activities that may need your attention.” The third criteria is that its use creates internal conflict or turmoil as it interferes with relationships or obligations to work or school.
    
    “For teens and college students, when you see those grades drop, that’s a big signal that the media use is actually becoming detrimental,” Falcione said.
    
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