Comment on Parents opt kids out of school computers, insisting on pen-and-paper instead
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 day agoBrother, I became a software engineer and I didn’t use a laptop for classes until college. Shoving Microsoft and Google products down highschool kids throats does nothing to “prepare them for the future”.
KiloGex@lemmy.world 1 day ago
And for those people who don’t become engineers? What about those kids who don’t have access to a computer outside of the phone in their pocket? If we want to increase computer literacy, it has to be in schools because it’s definitely not going to be at home in the vast majority of cases.
We don’t need kids going analog unless they choose a career path in a computer-related field. We need schools to be teaching proper computer and media literacy to prepare them not only for a work future, but a media future filled with AI slop and grifters. Not teaching them these valuable skills is how we get kids in their 20s right now getting their news from a fish on tiktok.
nottelling@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kids are already coming out of school computer illiterate. They know how to use specific applications, but don’t know things like directory hierarchy. Onboarding young people into working with general office productivity like SharePoint, or giving them a real grown up laptop instead of an ipad is like teaching boomers to open PDFs all over again. All the same old training and helpdesk calls.
the solution is the same as it was 30 years ago: computer class where they deep dive into how the things work, not just how Microsoft and Apple decide the things are used.
KiloGex@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t disagree. We need better computer literacy programs in school. But removing technology from learning 100% isn’t the alternative. Those parents are still probably going to stick an unregulated, fully accessible iPhone in their kids hands where they’re going on Instagram and tiktok with no media literacy skills. How is that any better?
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Ah, you don’t understand nuance, I see.
Go back and reread my comment, then reply to me when you’re ready to engage with what I actually said, and not a bunch of scary strawmen you’ve built.
KiloGex@lemmy.world 1 day ago
How did I miss the point? You said you didn’t use a computer in school until college, and then you talked about shoving mainstream bloatware into kids eyes. I don’t see how I missed those points. I’m also assuming when you went to college was a different point on time than it is right now. As you know, a lot has changed in the computer and online scene in the last 6 years, and exponentially moreso in the last 3.
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Alright I’ll spell it out for you. For some context, the article in the post (which you probably didn’t read) describes how schools are sending tablets and laptops home with elementary and middle school children. I specifically stated that I didn’t use a laptop for school until I was in college, and implied that my technology literacy did not suffer despite such “late exposure”.
I did not say that I didn’t use a computer until college. You made that up. I’m not advocating to remove all technology from school. That’s a strawman you’ve built to argue against. I used computers all throughout my time in school, starting in like 2nd grade. We had these things called computer labs, where a teacher that specialized in technology would teach us the ins and outs of using a computer, how to be safe on the internet, and provide adult supervision and guidance. In middle school, we had designated computer lab time to work on book reports, lab reports, research projects, etc. I carried a usb stick around with me to save things onto, which I would then take home, where I could continue working on my assignments on our family computer. My parents established rules and boundaries for using the home computer, and were another resource I could go to for help and guidance.
But we also wrote stuff down. Like with pencils, on paper. And had teachers up at the front of the room giving lectures, helping us through example problems, teaching. That was the primary way we learned. We weren’t sent home with an iPad and some edutainment games and told “good luck!” like the kids described in the posted article.
I’ll say it again, but I’ll reword it in more plain language so there’s less chance of misunderstanding: sending school children home with corpoware-riddled tablets and laptops with little to no guidance and expecting them to use that for the bulk of their schoolwork (the thing described in the article) is not a good way to foster technology literacy.