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underisk@lemmy.ml 2 weeks agoA permanent utopia free from geopolitical influence has yet to be established under any system of government, therefore no government has ever worked.
merc@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Why is “permanent utopia” the criterion? I don’t know of any political system that claims there will be a “permanent utopia”, except maybe dreams of what communism might one day be like.
underisk@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Well, permanent because if it gets destroyed it you can’t call it successful, and utopia because you need an ideal to measure success against even if its not realistically achievable.
Potatar@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Were carrier pigeons not successful? Just because something is discontinued, doesn’t mean it was not successful for its time when it was deployed?
underisk@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Carrier pigeons aren’t trained to establish a safe society for humanity. So if they get destroyed they haven’t failed at their primary objective. Governments, though…