Comment on Discord's Disturbing Ties to Global Surveillance | ID Verification, Palantir, & Thiel

• november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Personally, I would like to see them both get new users. And Delta Chat, and XMPP, and other messengers too. Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.

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  • hoppolito@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.

    I agree with the sentiment but still feel the need to point out: specifically, relying heavily on one proprietary, non-federated option is what did it.

    Open software with an established, open protocol (yes, even one as bloated as Matrix) has way less eggs-in-basket danger. The difficulty, last I checked, of self-hosting stoat is one thing that makes me a little wary of it too.

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    • november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s a valid point.

      I like that Stoat is self-hostable, but the lack of federation or even a way to sign in to multiple different instances in the same app makes me not even want to try. Why should I self-host something when everyone else is going to be on the flagship instance, which mine can’t talk to?

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  • PacMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I will check that one out! Currently evaluating a bunch of self hosting options right now

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• Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Do you actually mean Matrix or Element, the client? Cause I see a lot of people mixing these things up. Element does indeed suck as a Matrix Client but there’s been a sudden surge of quite nice clients.

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  • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Both. I’m no expert but I remember reading that it’s tech sucks. It’s search features and keys stuff are not that good. The element client is just bad. I’ve been using nheko client and it’s still no where near discord.

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  • motruck@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What surge in nice clients?

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• orenj@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  didn’t that one rebrand to stoat, and then reveal they’re into slop coding?

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  • astropenguin5@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah they rebranded to stoat, idk about slop coding tbh.

    There’s been talk in one of my main discord servers to move over to it though

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