Comment on Discord's Disturbing Ties to Global Surveillance | ID Verification, Palantir, & Thiel

QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Hopefully revolt. Matrix sucks.

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  • november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Personally, I would like to see them both get new users. And Delta Chat, and XMPP, and other messengers too. Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.

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    • hoppolito@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.

      I agree with the sentiment but still feel the need to point out: specifically, relying heavily on one proprietary, non-federated option is what did it.

      Open software with an established, open protocol (yes, even one as bloated as Matrix) has way less eggs-in-basket danger. The difficulty, last I checked, of self-hosting stoat is one thing that makes me a little wary of it too.

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      • november@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah, that’s a valid point.

        I like that Stoat is self-hostable, but the lack of federation or even a way to sign in to multiple different instances in the same app makes me not even want to try. Why should I self-host something when everyone else is going to be on the flagship instance, which mine can’t talk to?

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    • PacMan@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I will check that one out! Currently evaluating a bunch of self hosting options right now

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  • Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Do you actually mean Matrix or Element, the client? Cause I see a lot of people mixing these things up. Element does indeed suck as a Matrix Client but there’s been a sudden surge of quite nice clients.

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    • Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Both. I’m no expert but I remember reading that it’s tech sucks. It’s search features and keys stuff are not that good. The element client is just bad. I’ve been using nheko client and it’s still no where near discord.

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    • motruck@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      What surge in nice clients?

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  • orenj@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    didn’t that one rebrand to stoat, and then reveal they’re into slop coding?

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    • astropenguin5@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah they rebranded to stoat, idk about slop coding tbh.

      There’s been talk in one of my main discord servers to move over to it though

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• CubitOom@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I prefer SimpleX chat

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  • redsand@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is the most secure option but it isn’t discord. Stable, Post Quantum cryptography and defeating metadata analysis is core to the protocol. But the mobile clients are heavy and can eat battery. It also lacks multiparty voice chat which IMHO is a critical discord feature.

    Simplex and Mumble or Jitsi would be close and very secure but not at feature parity.

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