Comment on The most common bloatware we found on laptops and how to get rid of them

• magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No you should install your own OS like a grownup.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Most people can’t.

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    • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      *won’t

      I very seriously doubt most people are physically or mentally incapable of taking a quarter of an afternoon once to teach themselves how to preform a basic maintenance task on a machine they use daily.

      Just as car owners should know how to put on a spare tire or replace a headlight.

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      • klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I mean, most people should, yeah, but most don’t. Hell, most people I know can’t change a flat on their car, either, and I personally couldn’t change my car’s headlight. Probably would’ve figured it out, since I could change the spark plugs, but still. I think it also comes from a different source, though. It’s always been anxiety over ruining things for tech, or sending all of your money to a Nigerian prince. Nowadays it’s because tech has become more of a black box (like cars) for capitalism reasons, so most people just… Don’t look into it. They don’t fix their own cars, they don’t fix their own computers, they take them to the dealership, or to GeekSquad.

        I honestly don’t even know if I would’ve learned half of what I know if I grew up with today’s tech. It’s a lot more locked down now, so you can’t just curiously fuck around with it and see what you can do without breaking it

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  • Alb@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Any link to find a safe cracked version of LTSC ?

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    • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Sure.

      You can verify windows ISO’s with MD5 hashes here if you’re paranoid.

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      • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        To be a bit more direct, you shouldn’t download “pre-cracked” isos. Just download the real install media and use mas-grave to spoof activation/licensing.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Try zerobytes.monster/post/5225009

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• Fecundpossum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  No, they should be installing Linux on them after reformatting the provided SSD.

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• anothermember@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Why would you say that. It’s true that most users take a blase attitude to security these days, and it’s normalised by articles like this. It’s just basic good practice, whether buying a new or used PC, to do a clean install because even if you think you’ve removed the bloatware, you can’t really trust there’s no secret malware. Especially these days when so many companies want to spy on users it really isn’t just paranoia.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    All true, but most users don’t have the know-how or ressources to change anything about their OS so they’re stuck with that, bad idea or not. Their alternative would be using no PC at all.

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    • anothermember@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is often the pushback I get when making this point but I would argue that especially non tech-savvy users are vulnerable. The alternative is asking a trusted friend to do a clean install, which should be the advice of this article, that or a guide on how to do it. It’s irresponsible to publish an article aimed at a naive user who has received a computer full of bloatware and tell them to “just remove all the bloatware”.

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      • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Ok I’m with you that only removing the bloatware is bad advice, but my point stands that many people don’t have any of these options. And I’d argue that getting spied on by ad agencies is better than being left behind at the digital divide.

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    • ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Most everyone buying a laptop has the resources. Know-how is incredibly easy to fix. Installing a fresh OS isn’t difficult at all. If you can’t figure that much out then no, you probably shouldn’t be using a PC Stop giving people a pass to be willfully ignorant.

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      • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        no thank, I’m good

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Although there were also pre-installed bootkits already. Lenovo, Dell, i think HP too? Always laptops.

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