They’re extremely helpful, just not at a professional level. They can help a student proof read an essay or a content creator come up with a script, but they can’t help you code an app from scratch or give you a medical diagnosis.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Why would anyone subscribe? LLMs rarely are actually helpful and I really tried, as I’m a damn tech-nerd for decades. But most of the time it just takes longer to get worse results than just doing it yourself.
I would not pay 1 buck annually for this. And surely not 30 a month
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Didn’t say they’re 100% useless. They’re just 90% useless to me and 10% super helpful. Surely depends on what you actually want from them. But I couldn’t think of one area where i might seriously consider dishing 30 bucks a month out for an LLM. Except I’d do tons of translations every day or your proofreading. But for that, the free tiers would already be enough.
Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I don’t necessarily disagree with you here, I also think that no generative LLM is worth paying for, let alone a subscription with such a ridiculous price. However, I can still at least understand the appeal for a certain niche subset of people who constantly do the few stuff that a generative LLM like chatgpt excels at.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Yeah sure, i can understand that too of course. But…except for image- or videogeneration, what good would a subscription do? they’re all still free to hook us up. and the paid models don’t deliver the promise of intelligence either.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Sorry but if you can’t make LLMs useful there is something wrong with you. The problwm with this whole system is that it’s very helpful and valuable to the average person, as well as experts.
I’m sorry I wish you were correct but this narrative that LLMs don’t work is false and bourne out of lack of experience or just flat out lies.
Lies will not defeat our very powerful opponents here, nor their massive and expensive weapons.
Pretending the enemy is useless when the opposite is true is just leaving yourself and your allies unprepared.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
I didn’t say the don’t work. They’re just mainly useless. For coding? Nice for quick prototyping, seeking alternate approaches or such. Real code? Rarely working and in the end you spend more time fixing stuff than it initially saved.
For everyday research? It’s helpful sometimes, but mostly plain wrong. That one sure isn’t inherent of LLM but the data it feeds on.
For what it’s great is translations, summarizing stuff or a nicer web search. And my own locally run for the smart home. For that it’s a blast. Like “close gate, open front door, turn on all lights at 50% in a lush shade of green, and turn on the coffee machine”. Absolutely awesome.
But paying for that? And even like 30 moneyz? No way. Don’t get me wrong, I fucking love all tech and LLMs are kinda a dream coming true. But it’s still not really there. My last session with Claude ended in the “AI” giving up and asking ME how I solved it. Only to then admit my answer would be useless as it is forgotten anyway after that chat 😁
I have no political agenda and surely don’t lack experience. I don’t even see LLM as an enemy. I wish it was actually intelligent and really helpful/timesaving more than 50% of the time.
Not questioning generative powers for video or image or sound. They’re awesome there and totally timesaving and extremely helpful.
stressballs@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Yeah screw all those disabled people who benefit from it. We’ll just group them in with the other counterfactuals you have to ignore to maintain an opinion like yours.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
I have no idea how disabled people have anything to do with the current quality of LLMs. I didn’t say it’s not helpful at all, i didn’t say it does not work. Can you americans just think in binary dimensions? Some people don’t have a political agenda and just see things like they are. Like I do. And to me, LLMs are 90% useless, 10% incredibly helpful.
Darkmoon_AU@lemmy.zip 4 days ago
Truth. I don’t support US tech either but their LLMs are state of the art and VERY useful… No point lying about it. I’m supporting Mistral.ai instead now. Their model is good enough for my use cases, and I’m hoping their recent reported uptick in users like myself helps fund the research and hardware to make them even more competitive.
BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 days ago
They are a tool, but some people use it as a replacement for actual knowledge, and take it as gospel. Its going to create a generation of idiots
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
What is it that you find useful?
stressballs@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Medical help. Other than that, nothing that a local LLM couldn’t do.
Eventually I believe it’s going to result it worse care for the most people, but in the meantime, for some people it will mean early interventions. Maybe cure diseases… What humanity does from there I don’t care to guess because it will probably be worse.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
What do you mean by “medical help”?