Comment on Discord Alternatives, Ranked

• Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I mean the masses are pretty fucking stupid and I don’t think following them is a good strategy for life.

  Also, reddit was and somehow still is pretty popular and stack exchange is being killed by AI not discord, so that’s not really accurate anyways.

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• carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Discord is just objectively terrible for knowledge. It’s not search indexable or archivable. It’s more or less a memory hole.

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  • Creegz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Discord is a communications platform with tacked on features that resemble forums mostly as a means of organization. It’s not a KB or repository under any circumstances outside of misuse, so why would it have to be good at being searched/indexed?

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    • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Because not everything is a bug. People frequently want help and having a searchable place for past discussions it is helpful. Also this was in response to people complaining about forums and implying what came after is better so misuse is very much relevant here. Every modding community and a lot of other dev groups use discord for everything and it is from experience a trainwreck.

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  • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I hope you’re not implying an old forum search was any good

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    • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Most decent forums were publicly readable online and thus got indexed by actually decent search engines unlike discord. Hence “search indexable”

      I’m not sure why people think that discord search is some kind of gotcha. Its shit.

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Not denying that it’s shit, I don’t know anyone who’s actually happy with it. But old forums also weren’t built nicely.
        The whole of IT is different levels of shit all the time

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    • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Back when Google was a decent search engine you could just search “something site:someforum.com” since the built in search was so ass

      Something Reddit has in common with old forums

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Google didn’t remove site:something from their search functionality. Yet.

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• amateurcrastinator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  maybe you are right. i think people just forgot about it because of all the noise and because all these new platforms force bad habits. just imagine if those platforms didn’t exist where would openai and anthropic be without all that stackexchange/stackoverflow data scraping.

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• XeroxCool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  They slowly ditched better services for convenience. The account/login struggle is the barrier to entry that myspace/facebook/discord “solved”. A unique login for each forum, a different set of rules between each, some auto-deletion of supposedly inactive accounts, no photo hosting capability until death bed, yet another set of credentials for the latest photo host, and so on. Nothing was immediate because it took time to build the replacement communities and libraries. The problem is, it took years to realize how inaccessible the information became.

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  • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If the old service is less convenient that fucking Discord, it’s not better.
    The information is as inaccessible now, just in different ways.
    We never had a good solution. We had different bad solutions, each bad in it’s unique way.

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