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PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They can’t put you in jail if you’re fucking dead cuz you blew up your house.

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So is executing unarmed people in the street but that seems to be where the calvinball game is at.

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, but you don’t wanna do the illegal thing AT YOUR HOUSE.

    Set it up in a bush near the police station or something.

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    • CADmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This is for when they come to your house. At that point your best case scenario is that you’re dragged perfectly healthy to a concentration camp.

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      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Right. But the chance that your booby trap is discovered by the law without it blowing up is way higher than it serving it’s purpose as an uno reverse against ICE.

        So rather than going to prison for no reason, I say take the fight to them!

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• redsand@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Probably in most jurisdictions but maybe not if you shoot it yourself. Then it goes from being a trap to a remote controlled weapon.

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• ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Extremely, there are explicit laws against booby trapping your own property and you can face full prosecution even if it harms only burglars.

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  • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If Boris is being shot and explodes, the likelihood of the home owner already being killed by ICE or other agents is pretty high.

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, so your idea is a dead-man’s-switch, clever.

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Doesn’t even need that. If Boris is in the foyer, I’m answering the front door. If push comes to shove and I’m killed at the front door, they already know a threat exists. Then they enter the house and attempt to detain Boris.

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    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think borris needs to explode for him to be discovered and you to be charged lol

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      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If I’m dead, who are they charging? And who’s charging me when Boris kills the rest of them who killed me?

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  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gotta ask though, if it needs to be shot to go off, is that really a booby trap? I have draino in my house, that isn’t a trap. Maybe you have to put a sign on it saying don’t shoot?

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    • ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It would absolutely, 100% go to trial, and the prosecution could easily prove an intent to harm.

      As much as the Better Call Saul kinds of legal arguments look clever on TV, in reality the law is much more about vibes and how people interpret what happened.

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      • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s a lot of reasonableness and average person would expect in law, but needing a supersonic bullet to hit it is well out of reasonable territory.

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      • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I just wonder where the line is. Is it intent to harm. So if say the thing was a gift, and they didn’t know it was explosive. Would that absolve the person of guilt. Maybe it goes to manslaughter in that case?

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