Boycott the platform. No one’s gonna rescue the end user anymore. There’s no more oversight. Remove yourself from the ecosystem and encourage healthier alternatives.
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paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoOk, let’s say it is. They just want to invade our privacy. Now set that aside.
On a separate topic: What’s an alternative solution for the “there’s porn on the playground” problem that discord has? They are participants in it, they are facilitators. They shouldn’t be immune. Giving platforms a pass on things like this is pernicious. Giving platforms a pass is why Elon Musk thinks he can get away with CSAM generators.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
iceonfire1@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Are platforms responsible for the content their users post? No. Rules for unusual situations (CSAM, terrorism, copyright, etc) have been established for probably decades by this point.
An online chat/message board is not comparable to an image generator because the company is not creating potentially harmful content.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think it has become increasingly clear that letting platforms off the hook has been really bad for society across the world across many dimensions.
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 4 weeks ago
Yet Pirate bay is…?
iceonfire1@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
These are actually separate issues. TPB isn’t legally responsible for theft if someone leaks an unreleased song. But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB’s distribution of content.
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB’s distribution of content.
Wasn’t the argument supposed to be that because they only link to torrents but don’t host the content that the torrents link to themselves they’re not a disributor just a link aggregator?
KeenFlame@feddit.nu 4 weeks ago
But we have established, for centuries, that platform owners are not liable for what their users publish…?
TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
[deleted]Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Any kind of required age verification has significant privacy and security implications. Honestly I think the best approach is the pinky promise we’ve generally had until now, where by default the platform will not display explicit content until the user actively consents and asserts that they are of legal age.
Why exactly do we need to be verifying age? Any kind of legal/government documents and agreements are already covered by purjory laws, physical deliveries and purchases are already handled by photo ID checks, and porn is of course harmful to teens/preteens but they’ve always been finding ways to access porn even before the home computer era (and honestly this would be better handled through education by schools and parents than forceful legislation)
TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
[deleted]Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
Is preventing teens’ access to pornography worth sacrificing the ability for every adult to have privacy online?
This is a society level value judgement that has to be made, I’m not necessarily looking for hard answers
paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t disagree. We need better tools for this.
The problem is making sure these tools are not used as tools of the state for tracking.
spring_cedar_dust@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
I’m sorry are we putting aside biometric infomation being aggregated across multiple platforms and assigned to browsing habits so that governments know exactly where you’re browsing at any single moment?
Are we just putting that aside???
If discord can’t handle it don’t blame me. I mean what even is this point???
paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m not putting it aside to dismiss the idea that it’s bad. Just for the sake of conversation.
It’s an invasion of privacy, and we should have a better answer to the claims that it is the only way to put in protection on the platform side. “Parents” is not the answer to the platform’s responsibility here as a facilitator who profits from facilitating.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
the better solution is to ban porn from the platform. that’s it. there are some people who won’t like it, but they will find another porn platform.