Comment on Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

• paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Ok, let’s say it is. They just want to invade our privacy. Now set that aside.

  On a separate topic: What’s an alternative solution for the “there’s porn on the playground” problem that discord has? They are participants in it, they are facilitators. They shouldn’t be immune. Giving platforms a pass on things like this is pernicious. Giving platforms a pass is why Elon Musk thinks he can get away with CSAM generators.

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  • spring_cedar_dust@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’m sorry are we putting aside biometric infomation being aggregated across multiple platforms and assigned to browsing habits so that governments know exactly where you’re browsing at any single moment?

    Are we just putting that aside???

    If discord can’t handle it don’t blame me. I mean what even is this point???

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m not putting it aside to dismiss the idea that it’s bad. Just for the sake of conversation.

      It’s an invasion of privacy, and we should have a better answer to the claims that it is the only way to put in protection on the platform side. “Parents” is not the answer to the platform’s responsibility here as a facilitator who profits from facilitating.

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the better solution is to ban porn from the platform. that’s it. there are some people who won’t like it, but they will find another porn platform.

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  • iceonfire1@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are platforms responsible for the content their users post? No. Rules for unusual situations (CSAM, terrorism, copyright, etc) have been established for probably decades by this point.

    An online chat/message board is not comparable to an image generator because the company is not creating potentially harmful content.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think it has become increasingly clear that letting platforms off the hook has been really bad for society across the world across many dimensions.

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    • KeenFlame@feddit.nu ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yet Pirate bay is…?

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      • iceonfire1@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        These are actually separate issues. TPB isn’t legally responsible for theft if someone leaks an unreleased song. But, the publishing company can sue them for damages related to lost income based on TPB’s distribution of content.

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  • TheNamlessGuy@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The issue isn’t age verification, but rather how its handled. It SHOULD be handled by discord sending a request to my local government asking them “is this person an adult”, leading me to confirming who I am to them (and them only). None of my personal info should be handled by discord, and it should frankly be illegal for them to demand it like this.

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    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Any kind of required age verification has significant privacy and security implications. Honestly I think the best approach is the pinky promise we’ve generally had until now, where by default the platform will not display explicit content until the user actively consents and asserts that they are of legal age.

      Why exactly do we need to be verifying age? Any kind of legal/government documents and agreements are already covered by purjory laws, physical deliveries and purchases are already handled by photo ID checks, and porn is of course harmful to teens/preteens but they’ve always been finding ways to access porn even before the home computer era (and honestly this would be better handled through education by schools and parents than forceful legislation)

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree. We need better tools for this.

      The problem is making sure these tools are not used as tools of the state for tracking.

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  • Bakkoda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Boycott the platform. No one’s gonna rescue the end user anymore. There’s no more oversight. Remove yourself from the ecosystem and encourage healthier alternatives.

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