Comment on Blizzard bans 250,000 Overwatch 2 cheaters, says its AI that analyses voice chat is warning naughty players and can often 'correct negative behaviour immediately'

southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• aelius@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why though? What expectation of privacy do you have for a moderated public platform? Why is this substantially different than ingame chat logs?

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  • RadButNotAChad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    How long until information from our conversations is recorded and sold to data firms that will in turn use it to sell to us, or hacked and personal conversations exposed.

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    • aelius@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s a separate problem, though. I would of course oppose that.

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    • avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      How long

      0 minutes 🤭

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  • reversebananimals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Its not black and white.

    Here’s a thought experiment: since streets are public places, would you be willing to wear a lapel mic every time you leave your house that records everything you say in public and gives access to every megacorporation and government?

    Does that make you feel kind of weird? Well this is the same situation. Just because its a public place, doesn’t mean things can’t still feel invasive.

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    • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorry to point this out, but comparing a game chat in which you agree to a strict TOS governing your behaviors and permitted monitoring is not the same as comparing speech a person can freely engage in on the street. The former very much IS literally spelled out in black and white— the latter is far more left to interpretation by several layers of legal entities and enforcement.

      I’m not trying to be contrarian; these issues are simply more complex that you’re making them out to be.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It isn’t, I don’t use in game chats.

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    • aelius@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then you don’t understand the scope or nature of the problem trying to be solved.

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No, I just refuse to have some shitty company monitoring me when I’m trying to be relaxed and have fun. It’s bad enough you can’t do shit online without invasive bullshit, but I’ll be fucked if I’m going to deal with it when I’m playing a game.

        Idgaf what anyone else is doing or not doing, that’s not my problem.

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    • Wade@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you don’t use it then how is it a big deal if it’s monitored?

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      • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s why I don’t use them. I outright object to it on principle.

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• gruvn@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It seems safe to assume that you are not overly respectful to your teammates in voice chat.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Has nothing to do with that. It’s invasive and I object you that on principle. I don’t have any alexa/siri/Google shit in my house either.

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    • gruvn@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I absolutely agree with you on that. And I hate that you can’t get a modern TV that isn’t always listening.

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• kboy101222@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Agreed to a point. I think the ideal system would be to locally store voice chats. If you report someone on your team for being toxic, then they’re sent over for review but made anonymous (like “Blue Player 1” and “Red Player 3” instead of “xXxGunKiller69xXx” and “Purple Dream Flute”). If whatever system used to review the chats (preferably humans, but it’ll probably be AI) determines that there was an actionable offense, the match identifier is pulled up and then and only then individual player names get seen so actions can be taken, otherwise it’s fully deleted.

  That’s about the best system I can think of to balance privacy with the banning of toxic players. You could use this same system for text interactions as well. While I would love for 100% of my data in mp games to be private, it isn’t possible to do that and not be surrounded by toxic assholes 24/7 afaik. And I’m personally fine giving up a bit of privacy if it means not being surrounded by assholes every match.

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• mx_smith@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Isn’t that why everyone uses Discord.

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  • smollittlefrog@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because they want their voice chats to be monitored?

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