Comment on YSK TikTok Is Harming Children at an Industrial Scale. We know this because we obtained messages from TikTok engineers and executives

• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate these people. I’m at a loss for words

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  • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re confused by the assertion that access to social media is at least as bad for children as some banned drugs? Is this your first day on earth?

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s not as bad as drugs. Don’t give your kids phones. Be a parent. Don’t need to upload all our data and Id to palantir databases for tracking under the same old “protect the children” bullshit

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      • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s not as bad as drugs.

        Hard disagree.

        Don’t need to upload all our data

        This isn’t necessary. For instance, simply require any device to which children have access to get software that prevents access to 90% of the internet. Problem solved.

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• wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s the point, it doesn’t. Much like the argument about targeting marginalized people when you’re talking about children.

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  • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    we owe today’s teens a better internet experience. we should focus on building something that would have been ideal for us to have had when we were their age

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Teens and children, and the pushback you’re seeing is because a lot of people, even terminally online people, believe that limiting or preventing children (and teens) from accessing social media as they currently exist is part of making that happen.

      You have to slow the bleeding first. You can’t just ignore the broken leg and start physical therapy.

      Teens vary wildly in maturity and are likely to be unfortunately caught up in rules for children. There’s no easy cutoff age before 18 for when one can be trusted to be online without guard rails. I can speak from experience that teens will find a way whether its legal or not, so I’m not really super concerned about the ones who need access. They’ll find a way.

      And for every teen like you that says they are still alive because of unrestricted internet, there’s another one who is dead because of it. 4chan, tumblr, reddit even (remember when they “totally figured out the boston bomber”?), and more direct cyberbullying all claim lives. There were 3 suicides in my highschool growing up, two determined to be cyberbullying caused and the third just rumored. I almost lost one of my younger cousins to cyberbullying as well.

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      • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This isn’t stopping the bleeding, the people who caused the bleeding in the first place of the ones doing this. I don’t trust a single person in the Epstein files to have good intentions towards children or teenagers.

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