Comment on YSK TikTok Is Harming Children at an Industrial Scale. We know this because we obtained messages from TikTok engineers and executives

• yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure, legalize heroin for 12 year olds. Parents can regulate it themselves. Imbecilic reasoning.

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  • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How does that even logic?

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    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hate these people. I’m at a loss for words

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      • yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’re confused by the assertion that access to social media is at least as bad for children as some banned drugs? Is this your first day on earth?

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the point, it doesn’t. Much like the argument about targeting marginalized people when you’re talking about children.

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      • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        we owe today’s teens a better internet experience. we should focus on building something that would have been ideal for us to have had when we were their age

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• wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some important context on this user before anyone else gets dragged into a discussion: check their post history, multiple to a “Youth Liberation” community.

  No shade meant by calling it out, but I think that makes it much more clear how strong your opinions are on this. There’s nothing to be gained in trying to talk to you about this when your opinions are set so strongly. You aren’t going to see the dangers that the rest of us see because your focus is on allowing freedom from oppresive parental figures.

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  • fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “The dangers” are a moral Panic that’s been kicked off by Nazis

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can’t seriously be saying that in the comments of a post linking to leaked internal documents showing that one of these companies is aware of the dangers they pose and damage they are doing. Did nazis falsify internal documents and this leak?

      Did you somehow miss the Cambridge Analytica scandal with Facebook, where they manipulated the emotional content of users’ feeds and gathered scientifically significant measurable responses in the emotions of the manipulated users?

      Have you missed where each of these companies has had many public job postings for positions requiring applicants have psychology degrees?

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      People like to think of 4chan as the website that drove people to suicide, but every single one of the major social media sites has a fucking body count at this point, and almost every one is in the double digits.

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      Beyond all that, lemmy’s userbase trends older. I saw the tail end of the satanic panic into the moral grandstanding about the dangers of violent video games. I’d wager most of the users here lived through it.

      I know firsthand what a moral panic looks like. They didn’t have the amount of research papers (that hold up to peer review) and leaked internal documents we can point at. They didn’t have body counts even remotely similar.

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      Keep on fighting for opressed teens to have more ways to get away from opressive parents. To have access to factual information that their parents don’t want them to have. It’s a good cause with not many people fighting for it.

      That doesn’t mean though that anything you think challenges or opposes it is a nazi plot.

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      Teens are resilient and have astounding amounts of time on their hands. They’ll find a way to communicate, ways to make their own underground social platforms if they need to. The cat’s out of the bag. It’s the fucking internet. Corpos, government boots, no one can truly stop the signal. They couldn’t back in the days of dial up BBS. Good fucking luck now that you can get a device orders of magnitude more powerful for $50.

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      Don’t bother replying for my sake. I’m blocking you so I don’t get increasingly shitty towards you. Your mind’s made up on this, and so is mine. No point going back and forth if we’re just going to get more frustrated and exasperated at each other. Best of luck in your endeavours.

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