Is there a time when it wasnt? I dont believe the average movie was less shitty back then either. It is just that the best movies survive our memories and in our culture, so the past might seem more classy from here.
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Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The movie business has been dog shit for a long time now. Whether they continue making these shitty movies makes no difference at the end of the day.
emptyother@programming.dev 1 year ago
Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You could be right. But I distinctly remember there being a lot more enjoyable movies from the 90s. I’ve noticed that the format changed quite a bit between movies in the 90s vs movies today. Movie makers figured out a formula that maximizes their return on investment, but to me that has limited the depth and variability between movies these days. The exact same can be said about the music industry as well. To be me the more interesting movies/bands tend to be the obscure ones, which modern industry has strategically eliminated.
In other words some of the best and most interesting movies I’ve watched came from the 90s where those movies did poorly in the box office.
flerp@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Movie makers figured out a formula that maximizes their return on investment, but to me that has limited the depth and variability between movies these days. In other words some of the best and most interesting movies I’ve watched came from the 90s where those movies did poorly in the box office.
You’re defeating your own point. You’re basically saying the same thing that happened then ( a bunch of crap made, but among the crap was some golden treasures you had to find) is happening now, but you’re complaining about it happening now and not then.
Take off your rose glasses. There has always been crap shovelled at us and if you wade through the crap you can find some real gems. It’s not different now, you are.
Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You were also at least 23 years younger, presumably less jaded etc.
For as long as there’s been art, people have pined for the art of their youth that was just “better.” Boomers do it all the time with music still and joke about how their parents called their music noise.
There are amazing movies being made nowadays, from sociological fun Like Barbie to fresh horrors like Barbarian, X or Talk to Me, from intellectual commentaries like Tar to action brilliance like the Northman, social commentaries like Triangle of Sadness to wild action like RRR, beautiful anime like Suzume to soul searchers like Banshees of Inishiren, all of which are from the last 2 years. I’d say few of those would have been made in the 90s as we’ve just come farther, been able to make more daring and more interesting films.
Which 90s movies are you thinking of that stand unparalleled in modern times?
emptyother@programming.dev 1 year ago
The exact same can be said about the music industry as well. To be me the more interesting movies/bands tend to be the obscure ones, which modern industry has strategically eliminated.
I was born in '85, so grew up in the 90s. And I thought I just didnt like music. It was crap. And played over and over again on every radio, every TOP X Hits CD, and in every gymnastic class. I tried searching, but the local music shops just contained the most pop stuff and nothing else. '01 was when I first found I actually enjoy music. One guy burned a CD with some progressive metal on it. And not long after that I found so damn much good music that just wasnt available to me before we had internet and could share mp3s.
So the good music was already eliminated in the 90s, at least where I live. And came back with internet sharing, despite the music industri trying their best to strangle it instead of embracing it. They havent stopped. Notice how out of trends mp3s are now? All is about the damn streaming. Thats them doing surprisingly well at controlling, imho.
This doesnt disprove your experience, of course. We need a bigger sample for that.
lingh0e@lemmy.film 1 year ago
“Music today is dogshit.”
Don’t confuse your uninformed opinion with reality.
Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sounds like you’re upset that someone is calling your movies trash. Get over it and get better.
lingh0e@lemmy.film 1 year ago
My movies? What?
I’m not upset about anything. I’m simply pointing out that the assertion that all movies today are dogshit shows you are either ignorant to all the quality movies being produced and the history of cinema in general, or your expectations are ludicrously high. In either case, you’re contribution to the discussion is worthless. Or, to put it in your terms: your words are dogshit.
There have always been shitty movies. That’s not to say that there have ONLY been shitty movies.
There are good movies being produced, and with the entirety of human culture at your fingertips, if all you are seeing is dogshit that’s entirely your fault.