Comment on Is the Raspberry Pi Still an Affordable SBC? I Don't Think So
Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 hours agoThat’s not the point, the point is that their new developments do not do for the community what the original products did.
Comment on Is the Raspberry Pi Still an Affordable SBC? I Don't Think So
Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 hours agoThat’s not the point, the point is that their new developments do not do for the community what the original products did.
pelya@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Their original goal was to provide an affordable and customizable computing device with generic IO ports for a classroom, which they very much did.
14 years later, classrooms have a crapload of alternatives, ranging from $3 ESP32, which you can literally solder and throw away, to $500 Jetson, and all Raspberry Pi clones, like NanoPi or OrangePi, all with GPIO, UART, SPI and I2C ports, for all your microcontroller needs.
As for the embedded developers community (or ‘makers’ as kids call themselves nowadays) - these are the kind of people who dump two thousand bucks for a 3D printer and then use it twice a year. I think they will survive raising Raspberry Pi 5 price to $45.
And Raspberry Pi foundation pivoting towards business is a predictable move - those kids who used Raspberry Pi 14 years ago in a classroom are now business owners or technical leads in many businesses.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I think it’s strange that they haven’t extended the 40 pin IO capabilities. For instance analogue IO would be very welcome for many purposes.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 10 hours ago
There’s always the BeagleBone Black if you need a lot of IO. It has a 12 bit ADC too.
pelya@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
But, but, eighty bucks! TI boards are seriously overpriced.
pelya@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Yup, it would be super convenient to have one or two pins for ADC. Technically you have a DAC on Pi 4, if you repurpose the analog audio output, but on Pi 5 all you have is digital HDMI audio.
Oh well, an AD7705 voltmeter board costs only $2, and uses only six wires for SPI connection, including one of two precious precious 3V3 pins. And you’ll also need around three days to dig Github to find a working Python driver for it. But at least you don’t have to worry about burning your 3.3V Raspberry pins with 5V input voltage.
And at this point you are asking yourself - why not pay $3 for an ESP32 or a STM32? you can program it to use just three wires - power, ground, and UART TX, and you don’t need to read it 500 times per second like AD7705 and use 25% CPU of your Raspberry Pi Zero, you can program it to calculate an average RMS voltage once per second, and you can read a total of six ADC channels on ESP32, and on STM32 half of all the pins can be configured as ADC, and it’s also quite precise and low-noise, while on ESP32 ADC is more … consumer-grade.
Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I made a digital drum reader using Piezos on an Arduino with my wife some years ago, For that you need way more than 2 analogue pins.
I don’t see why newer Raspberry Pies couldn’t have something like 12 analogue pins, it would be amazing for many things, and it’s dirt cheap to make today. The ESP32 has 18 AFAIK.
In some ways ESP 32 has way better features than Raspberry Pi, but it is not nearly as user-friendly and it lacks audio. It’s also not a general purpose computer with the things that entail, but “just” an embedded system, although a very good one for sure.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
I have a handful of the original Raspberry Pi A and B models that have analog audio built in (with 3.5mm jack) and they’re still in use today because of that built in analog audio out. Also honorable mention to the original Pi Zero which had the logic (but not the header pins) for NTSC out. I have a couple of those in use too.