Comment on The new Microsoft copilot key is impossible to properly remap.

• brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So to be clear, this key sequence is just how windows interpret the key, the hardware is exactly the same and any other OS can still use it as the context menu key?

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  • attero@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    nope, the hardware / keyboard controller sends a complete key sequence instead of a distinguishable key-up and key-down event. The OS can interpret that sequence as it sees fit, but you loose the physical key-up signal when you release the key with your finger.

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    • Corngood@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s insane. Even if they did this intentionally to be as difficult as possible, they locked themselves out of being able to detect long presses?

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      • attero@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve made an update edit: Some hardware vendors fucked up with when to send the key-up-sequence apparently so now every keyboard can behave differently.

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    • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Though any competent manufacturer, especially when talking about laptops, would still have the application key under FN (as is shown in that example image), and give the ability for users to select which one is the default function in the BIOS.

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  • HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *on the firmware level, to be precise: keyboard polling is commonly done by the Embedded Controller, which is flashable (not by users, generally, tho, but during the uefi update, for example). Sometimes there are separate keyboard controllers, but those are not really common.

    So, if vendors want to fix this garbage, they can. Smth tells me, they don’t care, tho

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• MagicShel@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AI PC / Copilot+ label

  Okay that sounds solvable, at least. I mean, I hate it, but it seems that a person is getting what they pay for here. Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully there will be plenty of non-AI PC / Copilot+ computers.

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