Comment on Anarchists and Tankies could benefit from a Codex Alera 'Gadara' relationship a.k.a. trusted enemies

• HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean yeah that kinda works as a metaphor. Imagine if vegans and butchers teamed up to destroy Tyson foods before going back to being enemies

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  • 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That does not make sense. Vegans teaming up with vegetarians may make a bit more sense, but even in this is not plausible because vegetarians are ok with killing animals, they are just not ok with eating them.

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    • HuntressHimbo@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The key is finding the axis along which your interests align, and finding an individual enemy whose motivations are enough to trust. If you find for instance a halal butcher who the corporate player is trying to crush, you might find yourself someone with means and motivation to help you improve the world somewhat before your division reasserts itself. It isn’t so much ‘let’s compromise’ as it is ‘we might never get along, but destroying the meat corporation is a matter of survival for both of us’

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    • stepan@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      vegetarians are ok with killing animals, they are just not ok with eating them.

      what?

      vegetarianism simply means not eating meat. i don’t understand where did you get that all people who don’t eat meat have the same motivation (whatever that’s supposed to be) and present that like a fact.

      i’m a vegetarian because i’m not ok with killing animals.

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      • 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This could be a language problem. In my mother tongue a vegetarian still consumes dairy products and eggs and maybe wears leather. And If you drink milk, eat cheese/yoghurt/butter, your ok with killing animals. A cow needs a calf to give milk, and the calves are being slaughtered because a dairy farm has not the space to keep them around.

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