Comment on Starting to think affluenza might be a real thing.

• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Affluenza is a capitalist framing. We don’t need to capitulate to capitalist framings (not even the tiniest amount) to say that the capitalists need to have their assets seized and be involuntarily committed for rehabilitation 🙂.

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  • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The “monster” framing precludes the idea that they even can be rehabilitated. Monsters don’t get healing, they just need to be put away or executed. That’s still an improvement over letting them run rampant, but it’s a waste.

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The “monster” framing precludes the idea that they even can be rehabilitated.

      Maybe this makes me a bad anarchist, but it truly feels like capitalists are monsters that can’t be rehabilitated. Like I really want to believe that everyone can be rehabilitated with enough help, but can we really rehabilitate the few thousand people who are like Epstein in finite time?

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      • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are degrees of sickness, right? An asshole business owner who feels entitled to run red lights and speed because they’re white and have a nice car and know the police chief’s son probably doesn’t need life imprisonment or execution.

        I mean, I wouldn’t really be too upset if they were executed, but it just seems wasteful.

        On the other end, people in the Epstein files might need to be hospitalized for more than a single human lifetime.

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      • draco_aeneus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Even if we can’t, should we not try? It’s only, as you say, a few thousand. We can spare the resources to keep them locked up/under house arrest/whatever for the rest of their natural lives if we must.

        If we must execute people to heal the wounds inflicted by their sheer callousness, then so be it. But I don’t really accept the argument that anyone is “irredeemable” without even trying.

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      • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Maybe they can’t be rehabilitated. Maybe they can. Idk. I’m not here to make that call. All I’m saying is that they make for very interesting case-study.

        I don’t think you can get to any level of extreme wealth without some amount of personality disorders. Is this what happened when those personality disorders are left untreated, or worse, enabled?

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