Comment on Is lemmy.ml turn into authoritarian?
fubo@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Fascists aren’t morally healthy humans. Authoritarians can’t cope with social reality, where different people can have different opinions and loyalties and yet support each other. They always seem to end up succumbing to patriarchal cults, where Lenin-Hitler-Mao gets to do whatever he wants to your sons and your daughters.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Remember children, anything authoritarian (especially when talking about the left) is now fascist. This totally isn’t a maneuver in the right-wing fascist playbook to water down the term “fascist” to push for greater acceptance in the idea of fascism in the general public that we’re seeing today.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 year ago
…Dude. Do you want to, I dunno, read about the purges of loyal communists by Stalin in the 30s and 40s? Can you explain to me how that’s significantly different from the Night of Long Knives?
punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Well obviously one was done by fascists and the other was done by communists.
Comparing two really different ideologies with just one aspect / event and saying they are essentially the same is not really the way to go. Coming from a country that has a history with liberal capitalism, state socialism/communism and fascism I feel like its really unsettling how you are throwing together the different ideologies.
Communism and Fascism are really different in as many aspect as they are similar. Especially because fascism and communism both really vary from the specific context they got to power. Like fascism in austria was different from fascism in germany or communism in china is different than it was in poland.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I you want to talk about how they got to power, well, fascists usually got there by votes, and communists by revolution. It’s rare–but not unheard of–for a communist gov’t to be
But the end results end up being remarkable similar; they’re both dictatorial, and both use state-sponsored violence to suppress or eliminate competing political ideology. (I want to be clear that I’m not talking about Marxism specifically; Marx was opposed to the existence of a state. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, et al. were authoritarian.) As long as you are part of the political in group, you’re golden. Once you’re out, you’re an enemy of the state.
dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Stalin wasn’t a communist. He had the Bolsheviks assassinated. He was an imperialist.
KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nothing in my post is defensive of Stalin, you fucking buffoons.
Lightor@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Dude, you’re just as transparent as you are shallow.
coltorl@programming.dev 1 year ago
You’re acting like this is a right wing play, but the tactic of using fascism as an insult toward left wing parties actually has precedent even within left wing politics. [Before world war 2, even.](en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_fascism#:~:text=So…
dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Replying to everyone’s comments, comment history stalking, being a tankie, bro, literally go touch grass.
calavera@lemm.ee 1 year ago
From my experience it was the leftists who started to call everybody and their mother fascist.
So there could be no different outcome from this.