Comment on YSK that everything the New York Times about Donald Trump actually happened
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 hours agoI thought were were discussing rationality. It seems like you are saying humans are not rational because they are also irrational, and I’m saying that the only reason we exist as we do today is because of lots of rational plans and decisions. Ultimately we’re both rational and irrational as a species. The fact that it’s much harder to argue that we’re rational in this current moment in time is what vexes me. It’s definitely a change. Facts made a much bigger impact 20 years ago.
ameancow@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I’m just saying that they only did because we had social pressure on us to respect facts, because we still largely functioned in large social groups. People don’t actually care if facts are real and rational and good or make, they care far, far more about if their tribe-mates are going to make fun of them for not knowing the right facts according to that tribe. I firmly believe that the only thing that makes the majority of people respect reality is the pressure to conform so they don’t lose social standing or worse, be expelled from the tribe.
Now that we have atomization, our realities are entirely flexible and we don’t suffer for it, if anything we find these pseudo-tribes of invisible people to populate our heads online who will validate even the most irrational thoughts, so our driving motivation to respect shared reality just isn’t there anymore, or is dwindling rapidly at large scales.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You might be onto something here. I’m not sure though. I have a feeling it’s complicated and something we won’t fully understand any time soon.
UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au 3 hours ago
Just want to chime in with something; this is one of the most respectful, mutually considerate discussions I’ve seen on the internet in recent memory and y’all should be proud.