Comment on The rich oppose clean energy because it is renewable. If clean energy became non renewable, or fossil fuels became renewable, they would no longer oppose a transition to clean energy technology

slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I completely forgot about hydrogen cars. What a strange middle man between electricity and oil.

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• TheWeirdestCunt@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You realise hydrogen comes from water right? You know, the thing made of hydrogen and oxygen? H2O? Why would it come from oil?

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Because it’s cheaper to pull it from fossil fuels.

    At present, approximately 96% of global hydrogen production relies on fossil fuels, contributing to substantial emissions, while only 4% comes from water electrolysis. Green hydrogen, produced via electrolysis with 55–80% efficiency, remains expensive at $2.28–7.39/kg, compared to grey hydrogen at $0.67–1.31/kg, which generates 8.5 kg CO₂ per kg of hydrogen production.

    www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0360319925000382

    If you were Shell or BP would you spend billions developing new production facilities to split Hydrogen off stuff or use your existing multibillion euro fossil fuel production facilities?

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    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      As solar and wind power becomes more popular so does green hydrogen because it’s a good place to dump excess production when no other storage is available.

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