Comment on The recent Star Trek series are often criticized for "not being woke enough", but I've come to feel the envelope they are pushing is much more radical, bolder, and important to our specific time...

PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  TOS wasn’t exactly subtle with its wokeness…

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  • PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know it. It’s a different time tho.

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• CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Agreed. DSC was filled with superficial Mary Sue slop. All anyone ever needed to overcome their problem was a cookie-cutter motivational speech from Burnham, while inspirational music played and the camera slowly panned across every crew members face as they smiled and gave a nod of approval.

  It is cringy because it’s like a virtue signaling characature of “wokeness” along the same vein as “after-school TV specials” or Christian evangelist movies of decades past. There’s no depth or substance just endless variations of “there’s no problem that can’t be solved with a hug.”

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  • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I believe that dismissing something or someone because you personally find them uncomfortable (ie “cringe”) is ultimately a sign of weakness, and that’s what the writers are trying to tell us. It takes a very strong person to stand up and simply accept without judgement.

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    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Well I never said anything about dismissing someone or something just that I found this behavior to be cringe due to it being superficial and inauthentic much like after-school specials or Christian evangelist films. Another example would be corporations who change their logo to a pride flag during pride month but then later suspend this or donate to anti-LGBT causes because they think it’s more advantageous to do so.

      It takes a very strong person to stand up and simply accept without judgement.

      Sure in the right circumstances, but as you judge me here, let’s not forget that this is a fictional television show put out for entertainment purposes by a multinational corporation not a friend or confidant telling me an uncomfortable truth about themselves.

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      • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Labeling someone’s expression as “cringey” is dismissive in any context. It takes real strength to listen.

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• Kirk@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Do you believe Discovery had a story arc about gender identity? I would encourage you to watch the show again because it absolutely did not exist.

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