Unlikely IMO. Maybe some… But if they scraped social media sites like blogs, Facebook, or Twitter, they would end up with dumptrucks full. Ask any one who has to deal with UGC: it pollutes every corner of the net and it’s damn near everywhere. The proliferation of local models capable of generating photorealistic materials has only made the situation worse. It was rare to uncover actionable cases before, but the signal to noise ratio is garbage now.
Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Amazon Photos syncing, if I had to guess. It was marketed a free unlimited backup for amazon prime users.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 16 hours ago
ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
But if they’re uniquely good at producing CSAM, odds are it’s due to a proprietary dataset.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
This is why I use the word ‘proliferation,’ in the nuclear sense. Since the days of SD1, these illegal capabilities have become more and more prevalent in the local image model space. The advent of model merging, mixing, and retraining/finetunes, have caused a significant increase in the proportion of model releases that have been contaminated.
What you’re saying is ultimately true, but it was more true in the early days. Animated, drawn, and CGI content has always been a problem, but photorealistic capability was very limited and rare, often coming from homebrewed proprietary finetunes published on shady forums. Since then, they’ve become much more prolific. It’s estimated that roughly between a fourth and a third of photorealistic SDXL-based models released on civit.ai during 2025 have some degree of capability.
Just as LLM benchmark test answers have contaminated open source models, illegal capabilities gained from illegal datasets have also contaminated image models; to the point where there are plenty of well-intentioned authors unknowingly contributing to the problem. There are some who go out of their way to poison models (usually with false association training on specific keywords) but few bother, or even known, to do so.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 13 hours ago
They wouldn’t be bothered to try and hide that they were pulled from those public services.
They 100% know that if they revealed that they used everyone’s private photos backed up to Amazon cloud as fodder for their AI that it would puss people off and they’d lose some business out of the deal.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
Well another factor is providence: they don’t keep around exactly where they got their data from. Sometimes on a set level, but almost never on an individual sample. “We found csam somewhere on maybe reddit or imgur or pinterest” is practically worthless
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yeah my bet is Facebook and maybe some less reputable sites. Surely they didn’t scrape 8chan right?
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 17 hours ago
Yep. They are allowed to use your photos to “improve the service,” which AI training would totally qualify under in terms of legality. No notice to you required if they rip your entire album of family photos so an AI model can get 0.00000000001% better at generating pictures of fake family photos.