Comment on Lawsuit Alleges That WhatsApp Has No End-to-End Encryption

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s E2EE alright. Just, don’t ask what “ends” we’re talking about.

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  • Canigou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Their mouth and Zuckerberg’s ass

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• Flipper@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  For Facebook it doesn’t matter if its e2e. They control the client on both sides. They can just let the client sent the clear text data to them.

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• escapeVelocity@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  TMBE

  Trust me bro encryption

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• CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Any claims around E2EE is pointless, since it’s impossible to verify.

  This is objectively false. Reverse engineering is a thing, as is packet inspection.

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  • snowboardbumvt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Reverse engineering is theoretically possible, but often very difficult in practice.

    I’m not enough of an expert in cryptography to know for sure if packet inspection would allow you to tell if a ciphertext could be decrypted by a second “back door” key. My gut says it’s not possible, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

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    • black0ut@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Hell, as far as I know, E2EE would be indistinguishable from client to server encryption, where the server can read everything. You can see the channel is encrypted, but you can’t know who has the other key.

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      • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The easiest way to break E2EE is to copy your private key to Meta’s servers. It’s very easy to implement, and close to impossible to detect.

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  • escapeVelocity@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Outside of open-source. That shit is usually illegal

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    • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It isn’t. Otherwise security research would never happen for proprietary software and services.

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      • escapeVelocity@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        SureSure no white hat never been sued before

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      • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        In the US CFAA is so draconian that in certain aspects it can be very illegal to reverse engineer code behind explicit ToS which whatsapp make you agree to click-wrap upon installing the app. So Meta could easily sue you with very good chance of winning. I work in security and reverse engineer a lot of stuff but just because my company has lawyers that will protect me (also I’m not an american) but generally americans are super fucked here.

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  • Sinthesis@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Now you just need Meta to allow you on their networks to inspect packets and reverse engineer their servers because as far as I know, WhatsApp messages are not P2P.

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  • herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No it is not. Whatsapp gets several updates a month. How do you keep up with that rate?

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