Comment on TikTokers are heading to UpScrolled following US takeover

FukOui@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• FirmDistribution@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think it’s hard to host a video-focused social media on the fediverse, I imagine it would have a high cost to maintain.

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  • ZephyrXero@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    loops.video

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    • FirmDistribution@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      oh damn, I didn’t notice it is open source at first

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It wasn’t for a while.

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  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Build it on top of Bittorrent. If you like a post, you’re seeding it. When you want to stop seeding it, your like goes away.

    Then popular things will have a large pool of seeds mitigating much of the bandwidth cost to the instance host.

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    • Postimo@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think people would be pretty quickly upset by the batter and storage drain from this. I have to imagine if picking an instance is a barrier to mastodon, most folks are not interested enough to learn the mechanics of why likes suddenly use system resources, and see it as a failing of the app.

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      • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Plus the network usage for people with data caps, ISPs who throttle you for any p2p traffic etc it’d be a mess. Not to mention torrents usually have a ‘ramp up’ time as they find and connect to peers, probably not what people used to and endless stream of autoplaying short-form videos would want.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t see any other choices other than:

        1. You host it yourself. (Peer to Peer social media)
        2. You pay someone else to host it for you. (Instanced social media)
        3. You trade your digital freedom, privacy and political stability of your country to someone else to host it for you. (Meta, X, TikTok)

        3 hasn’t been working out so far and people really don’t want to have to pay another subscription. So you can spend your battery life and data instead. Maybe setup the service so that other people can seed on your behalf, so you could use your own resources or pay for someone elses all in the same ecosystem.

        Peertube does a similar thing, using bittorrent to share the load, but it only works while you’re actively watching the video so outside of very popular videos it is usually just the instance who is providing bandwidth. By tying the data sharing directly into the primary interaction method it creates a much larger pool of peers and, eventually, once everyone stops seeding it the data stops existing.

        No permanent record of everything you’ve ever posted, no central repository of data to be hoovered up by the AI startup who pays off the instance owner, no empowering a single person to control all of social media for their own selfish ends.

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    • klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Honestly the best way I’ve seen this handled is how Odysee did it. There’s crypto involved, but ignoring that, they essentially just asked users to choose to allocate an amount of their hard drive/bandwith to be used for storing, and sharing videos.

      That would work better from an end user perspective, rather than running their data usage up, and using storage on a storage-limited device like a phone, and I’m sure there’s a way to incentivize it that isn’t crypto

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      • sakuraba@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t get it, isn’t sharing videos generating data usage? I need to check how that works

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• EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  At least they are showing a willingness to move

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• E_coli42@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  99% don’t know what the Fediverse is. I can’t blame them for jumping ship to Upscrolled since it’s what they have heard of.

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    And me, living in the dark woods of Lemmy and Mastodon, have never, until now, heard of this ‘upscrolled’. I really like my ignorance-laced way of life.

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• Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Any non centralized platform would probably fall under the amount of users, unless they have some special funding

  Also, some creators want revenue and shit… and decentralized platforms don’t allow creators to earn money

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• CluckN@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah how come they won’t hop to a tankie filled content desert that is Lemmy? Where else will they find Facebook memes and US politics?

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well because why would someone look at Lemmy as a TikTok replacement

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• quips@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is there a federated/decentralized version of tiktok? Right now would be the perfect time to implement one of these.

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  • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There is but it’s not on any app store yet, not even f-droid

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    • quips@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Whats it called?

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      • MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        loops.video I think

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• Broken@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I don’t really fault them when they don’t know there is an alternative. And the alternative isn’t clear cut and/or very good.

  I do fault them for when they think that the platform is the solution and don’t expect the same thing to happen.

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• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  its that even their app installs is driven by recommendation algorithms of the app store. google will never recommend social media apps to people that don’t try to destroy society

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