Comment on There are 4 types of people out there. Those that are for a cause, those that are against a cause, those that don't care either way, and those that don't understand what the cause is to begin with.

• over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is absolutely amazing. I said absolutely nothing at all about religious beliefs, but here we are…

  This is exactly why I don’t follow religion at all, I prefer science.

  Like what the hell, more wars are fought in the name of [insert diety name] than any other cause.

  The following of a diety seems to cause more violence than anything else I’ve ever seen in my life, so I choose to not follow an imaginary diety in the sky.

  I prefer to just exist and be a constructive, helpful person when I’m needed. Fuckall with all the wars over ‘holy land’ and all that violent jazz…

  I never meant for this post to lead to arguments, but here you folks start it anyways.

  Shame ☹️

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  • aMockTie@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I also prefer science and reason to faith and religion. With that said, I take full responsibility for driving this particular thread of the discussion in this direction.

    I hope our discussion has been cordial, and hasn’t muddied the overall post. I didn’t mean to drag you or anyone else into this, and I’m sorry if this discussion caused any harm or triggered any negativity. I’ve experienced religious trauma in the past and I know how debilitating it can be.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Nah, you’re cool. Honestly, I kinda expected such discussion to come up somewhere along the way, I just didn’t expect it to come up so soon. It’s all good though.

      If anything I figured such discussion needed to come up anyways, just not by my words.

      Stay safe, stay warm, and bring happiness to the world. No reason to argue (though I’m not exactly innocent myself), but let’s try to have a good new year, new decade, and beyond…

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• ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think belief in God, the Day of Judgment and Heaven and Hell act as stronger deterrents against immorality than just the (accurate but easier to bend) belief that some things are good and others and bad and you should pursue the first and avoid the latter (which can be believed by a non-religious person in a vacuum, but for the rest of us these limits are defined by God so if our feelings or whims conflict with it it doesn’t really matter cause it wasn’t up to us).

  And, also, because I believe God is all the wonderful things he is, I assume he’ll also be soft on his approach, even if the person was yapping wild things online against God and whatnot at some points in their lives. They were just confused, perhaps emotionally compromised, but at the end of the day they tried to do the right thing regularly, and that counts for a lot. That’s the biggest part, in fact.

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  • aMockTie@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is an area where I disagree. I personally think that the “golden rule,” treat others how you want to be treated, is the only foundation of morality that is needed. That can mean different things to different people, so perhaps a more accurate statement would be: “treat others how they want to be treated, because you want the same.”

    If someone’s foundation of morality depends on an all powerful authority that can exclusively define what should and should not be punished, I worry about what they might do if they interpret the message of that authority to be harmful to otherwise innocent people.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This was never meant to be a religious post, but thanks for reminding me why I don’t follow, it starts too much shit.

    Check my other comment, and can you folks please chill? There’s private messages if you wanna talk about the imaginary dude in the sky.

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    • ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s been a very polite convo but fair enough.

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Much love, from a simple down to earth human. We’re all on this planet together, let us all be happy, healthy, and willing to help those in struggle.

        I know I’m not a perfect person, but I prefer peace over war…

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