Comment on Lawsuit Alleges That WhatsApp Has No End-to-End Encryption

• RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  seriously, if my comment is being upvoted, it’s because I responded to yours, and people understand what I am saying in response.

  Lmao, sure buddy pat yourself on the back because you got upvotes.

  You’re talking about E2E encryption as if it prevents side-channel attacks, but sure morons will upvotes because they also don’t understand real world security.

  The only useful thing you’ve pointed out in your deluge of spam, is that Signal builds are reproducible which does protect against the attack described (as long as there isn’t a backdoor in the published code)

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You’re talking about E2E encryption as if it prevents side-channel attacks

    That’s literally what E2E encryption does. In order to attack it from outside you would have to break the encryption itself, and modern encryption is so robust that it would require quantum computing to break, and that capability hasn’t been developed yet.

    The only reason the other commenter’s words sound like spam to you is because you don’t understand it, which you plainly reveal when you say "(as long as there isn’t a backdoor in the published [audited] code)

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    • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      E2E encryption doesn’t prevent client side attacks, I misspoke when I called it a side channel attack, and ultimately Signal code is audited, so Signal is more secure, but people are mistaking a client-side exploit (sent from Meta’s servers to the WhatsApp client) with breaking E2E encryption of whatsapp, which is not what is described in the article.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It sounds like you’re contradicting yourself now. You’re right, signal is more secure because its source code is open-source and auditable. So what’s the issue? It seems you’ve been arguing otherwise, and you’re just now coming around to it without admitting that you were wrong in the first place.

        The client-side app is also open-source and auditable, and you can monitor outgoing traffic on your devise to see whether the signal app is sending data that it shouldn’t. It sounds like people have verified that it doesn’t do that, but if you don’t want to take their word for it then why don’t you see for yourself?

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you know what size channel attacks are? Because nothing you’ve even tried to bring up describes one at all, or how it applies to your original comments.

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    • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah a size channel attack is when a poster can’t let go of how small their dick is so talks about how great Signal is.

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      • lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The whole comment hierarchy got a bit “heated”.

        Not or not only your fault to be clear… But come on, guys, let’s peacefully share arguments and learn stuff without insults or 😂-smileys. We can do better. This isn’t Reddit.

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