Comment on Is lemmy.ml turn into authoritarian?

wit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• gelberhut@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, the situation is a bit more complex. Admins of this “specific Lemmy Server” are creators and main maintainers of the Lemmy project as such.

  So, generalization you are afraid of makes some sense.

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  • wit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have replied to someone else further down with my opinion on this topic. I think it also fits in a reply to you, so I will just copy paste it here:

    Yes, it might sound worrisome, but I dont think you are pushing authoritarian ideology by using Lemmy. The code itself is fine. The code is not authoritarian. The server which hosts your account is also not authoritarian.

    Lemmy is, right now, the best alternative for a reddit-like platform. It is something created for the users, by the users. By using lemmy, you are not enriching the wallets of the shareholders. By using something like reddit, you provide content and a select few get to buy a new yacht.

    Also, plenty of people are contributing code to lemmy. It is no longer just these 2. The code is also Open-Source. Anyone can fork it and create a new version of lemmy, with compatibility with the current version of lemmy. By using lemmy, you are allowing the possibility that, at any time in the future, someone else comes and says “I have some ideas to improve lemmy, let’s do this on my own terms”, forks it and continues the work without massively spliting the community.

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    • gelberhut@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You have many good points here. Still, I have a feeling that Lemmy as a platform and as a software is still very coupled with its creators.

      Yes, there are other contributors as well. But these guys currently own the official repo and make key decisions. And if you donate to Lemmy you pay a salary to these two guys (afaik, Lemmy is their full-time work these days).

      So, for me, it is still rather complicated.

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      • ToxicWaste@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t see a problem about their work, just because of their political orientation. And frankly, neither should you.

        They develop good software, which is open source and everyone can inspect it. There is nothing wrong about them getting paid for it. Not giving donations to them because of what they believe would be the same as an employer running you through a political evaluation before actually employing you.

        Don’t get me wrong: there is nothing wrong about not donating (i did not). But not donating, solely because of some ideology a developer of open source Software has (which does not reflect in the code), seems quite stuck up to me.

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    • iegod@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      By using lemmy, you are not enriching the wallets of the shareholders.

      You actually have no guarantee that any given deployment doesn’t harvest and sell data. They probably don’t, but it’s not guaranteed.

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      • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        The data is public. It doesn’t matter.

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  • HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only if it’s actually having an effect on the Lemmy project.

    From what I’ve seen, the Lemmy devs recognize that their opinions aren’t welcome everywhere, and that Lemmy should not have any biases.

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    • Natanael@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That might still have secondary effects such as in what kind of moderation features they develop and support

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      • hypelightfly@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Hint: the moderation tools they are choosing to develop are none.

        They are intentionally refusing to develop any moderation tools despite current moderation tools not working and it being the biggest issue instance admins are facing.

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  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It also has the largest worldnews community, which bans you for discussing a literal war in Europe

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    • goat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      psssst… check out !worldnews@sh.itjust.works

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