I’m not even sure if you can install without an MS account if you don’t use Rufus anymore. Rufus requires literacy for sure, and even if you can still do it without it is designed to make it impossible to know you can from within the installer itself.
To use Windows without a Microsoft account requires tech literacy these days, I thought. I would not be suprised if users didn’t choose to sync with a MS account but it’s doing it anyway, if that’s what MS want.
Feyd@programming.dev 18 hours ago
conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 14 hours ago
Main issue with Rufus is secure boot unfortunately, otherwise Rufus is easy enough that I gave a couple “click here, then here, then here and here are some screenshots” to a friend they were able to navigate it just fine. At this point I swear Rufus is easier than using the official installer provided Secure Boot is off.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Images patched by Rufus can definitely pass secureboot, as long the bootloader wasn’t touched. Secureboot only checks the signature of the bootloader, not every single file of the operating system, otherwise it will take hours to boot
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
If you sign in with a Microsoft account at all I don’t believe there’s the capability to opt out.
I only use local accounts. I have never had a Microsoft account. I never will.
suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
You can’t do that anymore, at least not with a normal Windows installation. All of the tricks of forcing it offline, clicking cancel 10 times and jumping up and down don’t work anymore, they’ve disabled them all, the only way to install Windows 11 now (using the normal Microsoft installer) is by linking it to a Microsoft account.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Using Rufus still works. I did it as recently as a couple of days ago.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
Sorry, but the argument above was for a regular user, who doesn’t know what Rufus is, who doesn’t know the concept of OS, who simply
knowsthinks the files are saved “on the computer” (while they somehow ended up on OneDrive).CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
This is not true. There are several tools to create a bootable USB that uses a local account.
They just made it hard for Joe Schmoe to avoid it.
tehmics@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
You can still create a local account by setting the PC up as a “School or Business” PC and then choosing the local account option.
cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Just update a W10 local install. It won’t even try to ask you to add a microsoft account.