Comment on Solar is the new oil
slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I don’t see oil companies pivoting to solar.
We are seeing them pivot to Hydrogen because it comes from oil.
Hydrogen because it comes from oil.
and because it requires a large, centralized infrastructure they can control. if you could pull hydrogen out of the air cheaply, anywhere, they wouldn’t be in on hydrogen.
meanwhile it’s really a dead end anyway, barring leaps in fuel cell technology. who wants to deal with the pressures and infrastructure to move around cryogenic liquids?
People are already morons with gasoline, you want to add pressure lol?
I’ve been seeing a lot of research on reversible fuel cells, hydrogen safety, and using hydrogen as storage for renewable surpluses. I’m curious to know what sources lead you to believe that hydrogen is “a dead end”.
I specifically dislike it’s comparison as a replacement for gas and ev vehicles. end users handling cryogenic fuels or handling fuels that could potentially be highly explosive don’t strike me as winners.
you’re changing the narrative somewhat with the caveat of ‘as storage for renewable surpluses’ - this is NOT what the hydrogen production that traditional petroleum companies are focused on; there is potential - especially if the hydrogen can be collected from the air, reducing the need for storage infrastructure and handling. But moving it around? Trucking it around lol? at cryogenic temps and pressures?
hard to justify with such very small energy density.
Exactly, true, The USA’s-EU’s Rich-SuperRich Economic Classes/Owners are looking at NOT clean enough Hydrogen Power (the latest version does not come through Oil, but mining <yes, as current solar panels do> & Etc. other bad for Living Earth & All Living Beings still is required, so not as clean as they claim) for the future. With that said they want to continue to drain every last bit oil energy profits, before that.
FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 4 weeks ago
True, but a lot of Aristocracies didn’t pivot to oil immediately either, and look how that turned out for them when the world wars started.